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From: Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@collabora.com>
To: Tomi Valkeinen <tomi.valkeinen@ti.com>
Cc: Nikhil Devshatwar <nikhil.nd@ti.com>,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
Subject: Re: drm: Supporting new connector model in tidss
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2020 09:38:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201006093804.41128512@collabora.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e4b95dfd-93e1-4839-08c3-32b28e32dbc0@ti.com>

On Tue, 6 Oct 2020 10:07:39 +0300
Tomi Valkeinen <tomi.valkeinen@ti.com> wrote:

> Adding Boris who added bus format negotiation.
> 
> On 06/10/2020 00:31, Nikhil Devshatwar wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > I am trying to convert the upstream tidss drm driver to new
> > connector model.
> > The connector is getting created by the tidss driver and bridges are
> > attached with flag DRM_BRIDGE_ATTACH_NO_CONNECTOR
> > Here are some questions, regarding this:  
> 
> I was looking at this a bit, and below is my understanding. And I'm mostly talking about how things
> should be with new code, not legacy code. Things are probably a bit more complex if you mix bridges
> which implement different styles on how to deal with bus formats.
> 
> > 1) Most of the info regarding bus_format and bus flags is coming from
> > the bridges. Is it okay to not populate connector->display_info with
> > bus_format and flags?  
> 
> drm_display_info describes the connected display and what goes on the wire to the display.
> 
> For monitors that's quite clear, and the data in display_info would reflect what the last bridge
> needs to output. Most of the data comes from EDID, but I think bus format and flags do not. So a
> bridge would need to fill them in, which doesn't make sense when we have a chain of bridges (which
> would be the bridge to fill the data?). So for monitors, I think bus flags and formats in
> display_info are unused.
> 
> For panels, I'm not sure. We have the bridge/panel.c which wraps the actual panel driver, so afaics
> the panel is essentially the last bridge in the chain, and the connector is kind of a dummy
> connector. But the panel driver fills in the display_info, and that's where the bridge/panel.c gets
> the bus formats & flags for the negotiation.
> 
> Probably the above could be changed so that the panels take part of the negotiation process, and
> then the bus formats and flags fields in the display_info could be removed.

Yep, that'd be better to have the bus format/flags info provided by the
panel itself rather than passed through display info.

> 
> > 2) The "drm_atomic_bridge_chain_select_bus_fmts" does the format
> > negotiation. So is it okay for the encoder to simply pick the bus_format
> > from the first bridge's state?  
> 
> Yes, I think that is the idea. The first bridge's input is what the display controller's encoder
> should output, and the negotiation should take care to provide something in the first bridge's state
> for the input.

Exactly.

> 
> > 3) What is the meaning of MEDIA_BUS_FMT_FIXED? Does it mean that the
> > bridge does not change the format from input to output?  
> 
> I think it just means "undefined" here, and it's up to the drivers to decide what to do. I presume
> this is mostly for drivers that don't support the new stuff, as each bridge should be able to tell
> what formats & flags it supports.

Correct.

> 
> > 4) The bus_flags are available in bridge->timings->input_bus_flags and
> > also in bridge_state->input_bus_cfg.flags. Which one should be used?  
> 
> I think bridge_state->input_bus_cfg. Although bridge->timings->input_bus_flags has some data that's
> not in input_bus_cfg. If the drivers support the negotiation, I don't think
> bridge->timings->input_bus_flags has any use.

Oh, I didn't realize there was an input_bus_flags in the timings
struct. We should probably propagate those in
drm_atomic_bridge_propagate_bus_flags().

> 
> Probably bridge->timings->input_bus_flags should be used as a fallback. So if a bridge is asked to
> use MEDIA_BUS_FMT_FIXED as output (i.e. the next bridge doesn't support negotiation), then the
> bridge might use a default format and also see if the next bridge has bridge->timings->input_bus_flags.

I think this could be automated in
drm_atomic_bridge_propagate_bus_flags(). Right now we simply propagate
the output bus flags to the input end [1], but it probably makes more
sense to use the value in bridge->timings->input_bus_flags if present.

[1]https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v5.9-rc8/source/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_bridge.c#L971
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      reply	other threads:[~2020-10-06  7:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-10-05 21:31 drm: Supporting new connector model in tidss Nikhil Devshatwar
2020-10-05 22:09 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-10-06  7:07 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2020-10-06  7:38   ` Boris Brezillon [this message]

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