From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.8 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96EABC43467 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2020 07:51:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from alsa0.perex.cz (alsa0.perex.cz [77.48.224.243]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 763E321897 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2020 07:51:04 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=alsa-project.org header.i=@alsa-project.org header.b="fcdzf/ji"; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (1024-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b="2Btk65BK" DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org 763E321897 Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=fail (p=none dis=none) header.from=linuxfoundation.org Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=alsa-devel-bounces@alsa-project.org Received: from alsa1.perex.cz (alsa1.perex.cz [207.180.221.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by alsa0.perex.cz (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D2C2616A4; Thu, 8 Oct 2020 09:50:12 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 alsa0.perex.cz D2C2616A4 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=alsa-project.org; s=default; t=1602143462; bh=YBS+MwCavDsFdeUTd1WYUDdA6c+iqbiDUCr/7HtOI4Y=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Cc:List-Id: List-Unsubscribe:List-Archive:List-Post:List-Help:List-Subscribe: From; b=fcdzf/ji7ZuvZtycVR8//vYp4qKKNMp8FElktrFLGWi/F3+OqPUM9vSwqrUxui8Ay tIpfTRcXYj4VAszzqbwLfHAaQcVfi+Ztg5ZohUyE3wyO9NulJ0WOGMfEjiJAnkjR4t 2rpQcpRDcJ4KVk3pbanZvD5bsSKQydCbMnuE1Wuc= Received: from alsa1.perex.cz (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by alsa1.perex.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44E8FF80163; Thu, 8 Oct 2020 09:50:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: by alsa1.perex.cz (Postfix, from userid 50401) id 4485DF80164; Thu, 8 Oct 2020 09:50:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by alsa1.perex.cz (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B92A5F8015A for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2020 09:50:06 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 alsa1.perex.cz B92A5F8015A Authentication-Results: alsa1.perex.cz; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b="2Btk65BK" Received: from localhost (83-86-74-64.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl [83.86.74.64]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C90F42184D; Thu, 8 Oct 2020 07:50:03 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=default; t=1602143404; bh=YBS+MwCavDsFdeUTd1WYUDdA6c+iqbiDUCr/7HtOI4Y=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=2Btk65BK/h0mFgXMRPEafb0pVYKBHvPk0aNd4i1Q2KDDX3kSYtxbJz9OgCU88iJjA cfmxKkC+pMryZkFLP6N68WfcvKvmhuLOFZqqJwOqgLHi5w2WvVN1q/X8jxPY8tS30W qnizCjT79GKXMA4zdH9kXuSDoaiTAU874K25I26o= Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2020 09:50:48 +0200 From: "gregkh@linuxfoundation.org" To: Dan Williams Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/6] Add ancillary bus support Message-ID: <20201008075048.GA254837@kroah.com> References: <20201006170241.GM1874917@unreal> <20201007192610.GD3964015@unreal> <20201008052137.GA13580@unreal> <20201008070032.GG13580@unreal> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Cc: "alsa-devel@alsa-project.org" , "parav@mellanox.com" , Leon Romanovsky , "tiwai@suse.de" , "netdev@vger.kernel.org" , Pierre-Louis Bossart , "ranjani.sridharan@linux.intel.com" , "fred.oh@linux.intel.com" , "linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org" , "dledford@redhat.com" , "broonie@kernel.org" , Parav Pandit , Jason Gunthorpe , "kuba@kernel.org" , "Ertman, David M" , "Saleem, Shiraz" , "davem@davemloft.net" , "Patil, Kiran" X-BeenThere: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Alsa-devel mailing list for ALSA developers - http://www.alsa-project.org" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: alsa-devel-bounces@alsa-project.org Sender: "Alsa-devel" On Thu, Oct 08, 2020 at 12:38:00AM -0700, Dan Williams wrote: > On Thu, Oct 8, 2020 at 12:01 AM Leon Romanovsky wrote: > [..] > > All stated above is my opinion, it can be different from yours. > > Yes, but we need to converge to move this forward. Jason was involved > in the current organization for registration, Greg was angling for > this to be core functionality. I have use cases outside of RDMA and > netdev. Parav was ok with the current organization. The SOF folks > already have a proposed incorporation of it. The argument I am hearing > is that "this registration api seems hard for driver writers" when we > have several driver writers who have already taken a look and can make > it work. If you want to follow on with a simpler wrappers for your use > case, great, but I do not yet see anyone concurring with your opinion > that the current organization is irretrievably broken or too obscure > to use. That's kind of because I tuned out of this thread a long time ago :) I do agree with Leon that I think the current patch is not the correct way to do this the easiest, but don't have a competing proposal to show what I mean. Yet. Let's see what happens after 5.10-rc1 is out, it's too late now for any of this for this next merge window so we can not worry about it for a few weeks. thanks, greg k-h From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.8 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIMWL_WL_HIGH, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6757C43467 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2020 07:50:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E94821941 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 2020 07:50:06 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=default; t=1602143406; bh=YBS+MwCavDsFdeUTd1WYUDdA6c+iqbiDUCr/7HtOI4Y=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:List-ID:From; b=p5zp/3/nDFfOlXmlaYhG33viFvWcIdgZ/dutQ+spZLYEF3E5xL70N5bsEpxxd7UdY 1dymjDXmu5ZyfNOy46wOukuno1R5trHt4MrP8E+TSKqMRWEKwXEjCHOVy3gvw3qO1P vRmEGS9ztbYDPLZjsSrFNAxgB7Icxrst2FYji/kY= Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1727887AbgJHHuF (ORCPT ); Thu, 8 Oct 2020 03:50:05 -0400 Received: from mail.kernel.org ([198.145.29.99]:36960 "EHLO mail.kernel.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1727694AbgJHHuF (ORCPT ); Thu, 8 Oct 2020 03:50:05 -0400 Received: from localhost (83-86-74-64.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl [83.86.74.64]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C90F42184D; Thu, 8 Oct 2020 07:50:03 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=default; t=1602143404; bh=YBS+MwCavDsFdeUTd1WYUDdA6c+iqbiDUCr/7HtOI4Y=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=2Btk65BK/h0mFgXMRPEafb0pVYKBHvPk0aNd4i1Q2KDDX3kSYtxbJz9OgCU88iJjA cfmxKkC+pMryZkFLP6N68WfcvKvmhuLOFZqqJwOqgLHi5w2WvVN1q/X8jxPY8tS30W qnizCjT79GKXMA4zdH9kXuSDoaiTAU874K25I26o= Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2020 09:50:48 +0200 From: "gregkh@linuxfoundation.org" To: Dan Williams Cc: Leon Romanovsky , "Ertman, David M" , Parav Pandit , Pierre-Louis Bossart , "alsa-devel@alsa-project.org" , "parav@mellanox.com" , "tiwai@suse.de" , "netdev@vger.kernel.org" , "ranjani.sridharan@linux.intel.com" , "fred.oh@linux.intel.com" , "linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org" , "dledford@redhat.com" , "broonie@kernel.org" , Jason Gunthorpe , "kuba@kernel.org" , "Saleem, Shiraz" , "davem@davemloft.net" , "Patil, Kiran" Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/6] Add ancillary bus support Message-ID: <20201008075048.GA254837@kroah.com> References: <20201006170241.GM1874917@unreal> <20201007192610.GD3964015@unreal> <20201008052137.GA13580@unreal> <20201008070032.GG13580@unreal> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org On Thu, Oct 08, 2020 at 12:38:00AM -0700, Dan Williams wrote: > On Thu, Oct 8, 2020 at 12:01 AM Leon Romanovsky wrote: > [..] > > All stated above is my opinion, it can be different from yours. > > Yes, but we need to converge to move this forward. Jason was involved > in the current organization for registration, Greg was angling for > this to be core functionality. I have use cases outside of RDMA and > netdev. Parav was ok with the current organization. The SOF folks > already have a proposed incorporation of it. The argument I am hearing > is that "this registration api seems hard for driver writers" when we > have several driver writers who have already taken a look and can make > it work. If you want to follow on with a simpler wrappers for your use > case, great, but I do not yet see anyone concurring with your opinion > that the current organization is irretrievably broken or too obscure > to use. That's kind of because I tuned out of this thread a long time ago :) I do agree with Leon that I think the current patch is not the correct way to do this the easiest, but don't have a competing proposal to show what I mean. Yet. Let's see what happens after 5.10-rc1 is out, it's too late now for any of this for this next merge window so we can not worry about it for a few weeks. thanks, greg k-h