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From: Jesper Dangaard Brouer <brouer@redhat.com>
To: Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>
Cc: bpf@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	Daniel Borkmann <borkmann@iogearbox.net>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>,
	maze@google.com, lmb@cloudflare.com, shaun@tigera.io,
	Lorenzo Bianconi <lorenzo@kernel.org>,
	marek@cloudflare.com, John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	eyal.birger@gmail.com, willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com,
	brouer@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next V3 1/6] bpf: Remove MTU check in __bpf_skb_max_len
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2020 12:25:45 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201010122545.5ae12f9c@carbon> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20b1e1dc-7ce7-dc42-54cd-5c4040ccdb30@iogearbox.net>

On Fri, 9 Oct 2020 18:12:20 +0200
Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net> wrote:

> On 10/8/20 4:09 PM, Jesper Dangaard Brouer wrote:
> > Multiple BPF-helpers that can manipulate/increase the size of the SKB uses
> > __bpf_skb_max_len() as the max-length. This function limit size against
> > the current net_device MTU (skb->dev->mtu).
> > 
> > When a BPF-prog grow the packet size, then it should not be limited to the
> > MTU. The MTU is a transmit limitation, and software receiving this packet
> > should be allowed to increase the size. Further more, current MTU check in
> > __bpf_skb_max_len uses the MTU from ingress/current net_device, which in
> > case of redirects uses the wrong net_device.
> > 
> > Keep a sanity max limit of IP6_MAX_MTU (under CONFIG_IPV6) which is 64KiB
> > plus 40 bytes IPv6 header size. If compiled without IPv6 use IP_MAX_MTU.
> > 
> > V3: replace __bpf_skb_max_len() with define and use IPv6 max MTU size.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Jesper Dangaard Brouer <brouer@redhat.com>
> > ---
> >   net/core/filter.c |   16 ++++++++--------
> >   1 file changed, 8 insertions(+), 8 deletions(-)
> > 
> > diff --git a/net/core/filter.c b/net/core/filter.c
> > index 05df73780dd3..ddc1f9ba89d1 100644
> > --- a/net/core/filter.c
> > +++ b/net/core/filter.c
> > @@ -3474,11 +3474,11 @@ static int bpf_skb_net_shrink(struct sk_buff *skb, u32 off, u32 len_diff,
> >   	return 0;
> >   }
> >   
> > -static u32 __bpf_skb_max_len(const struct sk_buff *skb)
> > -{
> > -	return skb->dev ? skb->dev->mtu + skb->dev->hard_header_len :
> > -			  SKB_MAX_ALLOC;
> > -}
> > +#ifdef IP6_MAX_MTU /* Depend on CONFIG_IPV6 */
> > +#define BPF_SKB_MAX_LEN IP6_MAX_MTU
> > +#else
> > +#define BPF_SKB_MAX_LEN IP_MAX_MTU
> > +#endif  
> 
> Shouldn't that check on skb->protocol? The way I understand it is
> that a number of devices including virtual ones use ETH_MAX_MTU as
> their dev->max_mtu, so the mtu must be in the range of
> dev->min_mtu(=ETH_MIN_MTU), dev->max_mtu(=ETH_MAX_MTU).
> __dev_set_mtu() then sets the user value to dev->mtu in the core if
> within this range. That means in your case skb->dev->hard_header_len
> for example is left out, meaning if we go for some constant, that
> would need to be higher.

Sorry, but I think you have missed the point.  This BPF_SKB_MAX_LEN is
just a sanity max limit.  We are removing the limit for BPF-progs to
change the size of the packet (regardless of MTU).

This will allow BPF-ingress to increase packet size (up-to this sanity
limit) and then BPF-egress can decrease packet size again, before
sending it to the actual dev.  It is up to the BPF-programmer that to
use this for, but I think this adds good flexibility, instead of being
limited to the *transmit* size (MTU) of the dev.  This is software why
have this MTU limit.

-- 
Best regards,
  Jesper Dangaard Brouer
  MSc.CS, Principal Kernel Engineer at Red Hat
  LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/brouer


  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-10-10 10:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-10-08 14:08 [PATCH bpf-next V3 0/6] bpf: New approach for BPF MTU handling Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2020-10-08 14:09 ` [PATCH bpf-next V3 1/6] bpf: Remove MTU check in __bpf_skb_max_len Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2020-10-09 16:12   ` Daniel Borkmann
2020-10-09 18:26     ` Maciej Żenczykowski
2020-10-10 10:25     ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer [this message]
2020-10-08 14:09 ` [PATCH bpf-next V3 2/6] bpf: bpf_fib_lookup return MTU value as output when looked up Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2020-10-09  4:05   ` David Ahern
2020-10-08 14:09 ` [PATCH bpf-next V3 3/6] bpf: add BPF-helper for MTU checking Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2020-10-09 23:29   ` Maciej Żenczykowski
2020-10-21 11:32     ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2020-10-12 15:54   ` Lorenz Bauer
2020-10-08 14:09 ` [PATCH bpf-next V3 4/6] bpf: make it possible to identify BPF redirected SKBs Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2020-10-09 16:47   ` Daniel Borkmann
2020-10-09 18:33     ` Maciej Żenczykowski
2020-10-10 11:09       ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2020-10-12 21:04         ` Maciej Żenczykowski
2020-10-08 14:09 ` [PATCH bpf-next V3 5/6] bpf: drop MTU check when doing TC-BPF redirect to ingress Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2020-10-09 23:17   ` Maciej Żenczykowski
2020-10-08 14:09 ` [PATCH bpf-next V3 6/6] net: inline and splitup is_skb_forwardable Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2020-10-09 16:33 ` [PATCH bpf-next V3 0/6] bpf: New approach for BPF MTU handling Jakub Kicinski
2020-10-09 20:49   ` John Fastabend
2020-10-09 21:07     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2020-10-09 21:57       ` Maciej Żenczykowski
2020-10-09 23:00     ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-10-10 10:44       ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2020-10-10 16:32         ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-10-10 23:52           ` John Fastabend
2020-10-11 23:30             ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-10-13 20:40           ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2020-10-13 23:07             ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-10-13 23:37               ` Alexei Starovoitov
2020-10-13 23:54                 ` Maciej Żenczykowski

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