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From: Yun Hsiang <hsiang023167@gmail.com>
To: Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>
Cc: peterz@infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	qais.yousef@arm.com, patrick.bellasi@matbug.net
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/1] sched/uclamp: add SCHED_FLAG_UTIL_CLAMP_RESET flag to reset uclamp
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2020 23:00:34 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201014150034.GA502296@ubuntu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ae86aa70-2787-fe35-7ea6-2d1c4f4d9301@arm.com>

On Tue, Oct 13, 2020 at 10:25:48PM +0200, Dietmar Eggemann wrote:
> Hi Yun,
> 
> On 12/10/2020 18:31, Yun Hsiang wrote:
> > If the user wants to stop controlling uclamp and let the task inherit
> > the value from the group, we need a method to reset.
> > 
> > Add SCHED_FLAG_UTIL_CLAMP_RESET flag to allow the user to reset uclamp via
> > sched_setattr syscall.
> 
> before we decide on how to implement the 'uclamp user_defined reset'
> feature, could we come back to your use case in
> https://lkml.kernel.org/r/20201002053812.GA176142@ubuntu ?
> 
> Lets just consider uclamp min for now. We have:
> 
> (1) system-wide:
> 
> # cat /proc/sys/kernel/sched_util_clamp_min
> 
> 1024
> 
> (2) tg (hierarchy) with top-app's cpu.uclamp.min to ~200 (20% of 1024):
> 
> # cat /sys/fs/cgroup/cpu/top-app/cpu.uclamp.min
> 20
> 
> (3) and 2 cfs tasks A and B in top-app:
> 
> # cat /sys/fs/cgroup/cpu/top-app/tasks
> 
> pid_A
> pid_B
> 
> Then you set A and B's uclamp min to 100. A and B are now user_defined.
> A and B's effective uclamp min value is 100.
> 
> Since the task uclamp min values (3) are less than (1) and (2), their
> uclamp min value is not affected by (1) or (2).
> 
> If A doesn't want to control itself anymore, it can set its uclamp min
> to e.g. 300. Now A's effective uclamp min value is ~200, i.e. controlled
> by (2), the one of B stays 100.

The tg uclamp value may also change. If top-app's cpu.uclamp.min change
to 50 (~500), then task A's effective uclamp min value is 300 not ~500.
We can set task A's uclamp to 1024, it will be restricted by the tg.
But when task A move to root group, it's effective uclamp min value
will be 1024 not 0. If a task is in root group and it doesn't want to
control it's uclamp, the effective uclamp min value of that task should be 0.
So I think reset functionality is needed.

> 
> So the policy is:
> 
> (a) If the user_defined task wants to control it's uclamp, use task
>     uclamp value less than the tg (hierarchy) (and the system-wide)
>     value.
> 
> (b) If the user_defined task doesn't want to control it's uclamp
>     anymore, use a uclamp value greater than or equal the tg (hierarchy)
>     (and the system-wide) value.
> 
> So where exactly is the use case which would require a 'uclamp
> user_defined reset' functionality?

  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-10-14 15:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-10-12 16:31 [PATCH v2 1/1] sched/uclamp: add SCHED_FLAG_UTIL_CLAMP_RESET flag to reset uclamp Yun Hsiang
2020-10-13  8:21 ` Patrick Bellasi
2020-10-13 10:29   ` Qais Yousef
2020-10-13 11:46     ` Patrick Bellasi
2020-10-13 13:32       ` Qais Yousef
2020-10-13 16:52         ` Patrick Bellasi
2020-10-14 16:15           ` Yun Hsiang
2020-10-13 20:25 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2020-10-14 14:50   ` Patrick Bellasi
2020-10-15 11:53     ` Dietmar Eggemann
2020-10-14 15:00   ` Yun Hsiang [this message]
2020-10-15 11:56     ` Dietmar Eggemann

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