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From: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
To: Vladimir Oltean <vladimir.oltean@nxp.com>
Cc: David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>,
	'Florian Fainelli' <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"vivien.didelot@gmail.com" <vivien.didelot@gmail.com>,
	"kuba@kernel.org" <kuba@kernel.org>,
	Christian Eggers <ceggers@arri.de>,
	Kurt Kanzenbach <kurt@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 02/13] net: dsa: implement a central TX reallocation procedure
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2020 14:19:20 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201019121920.GM456889@lunn.ch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201019103047.oq5ki3jlhnwzz2xv@skbuf>

On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 10:30:47AM +0000, Vladimir Oltean wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 08:33:27AM +0000, David Laight wrote:
> > Is it possible to send the extra bytes from a separate buffer fragment?
> > The entire area could be allocated (coherent) when the rings are
> > allocated.
> > That would save having to modify the skb at all.
> > 
> > Even if some bytes of the frame header need 'adjusting' transmitting
> > from a copy may be faster - especially on systems with an iommu.
> > 
> > Many (many) moons ago we found the cutoff point for copying frames
> > on a system with an iommu to be around 1k bytes.
> 
> Please help me understand better how to implement what you're suggesting.
> DSA switches have 3 places where they might insert a tag:
> 1. Between the source MAC address and the EtherType (this is the most
>    common)
> 2. Before the destination MAC address
> 3. Before the FCS
> 
> I imagine that the most common scenario (1) is also the most difficult
> to implement using fragments, since I would need to split the Ethernet
> header from the rest of the skb data area, which might defeat the
> purpose.

We also have length issues. Most scatter/gather DMA engines require
the fragments are multiple of 4 bytes. Only the last segment does not
have this length restriction. And some of the DSA tag headers are 2
bytes, or 1 byte. So some master devices are going to have to convert
the fragments back to a linear buffer.

    Andrew

  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-10-19 12:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-10-17 21:35 [RFC PATCH 00/13] Generic TX reallocation for DSA Vladimir Oltean
2020-10-17 21:35 ` [RFC PATCH 01/13] net: dsa: add plumbing for custom netdev statistics Vladimir Oltean
2020-10-17 22:13   ` Florian Fainelli
2020-10-17 23:15   ` Andrew Lunn
2020-10-18  0:23     ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-10-18 12:02   ` Heiner Kallweit
2020-10-18 12:16     ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-10-18 13:09       ` Heiner Kallweit
2020-10-18 13:48         ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-10-18 14:13           ` Heiner Kallweit
2020-10-18 22:58             ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-10-18 23:11               ` Florian Fainelli
2020-10-19  0:21                 ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-10-19  3:49                   ` Florian Fainelli
2020-10-19 12:05                     ` Andrew Lunn
2020-10-19 16:27                       ` Florian Fainelli
2020-10-18 16:49   ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-10-18 17:36     ` Andrew Lunn
2020-10-18 18:26       ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-10-18 18:33         ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-10-17 21:36 ` [RFC PATCH 02/13] net: dsa: implement a central TX reallocation procedure Vladimir Oltean
2020-10-17 22:01   ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-10-17 22:11     ` Florian Fainelli
2020-10-17 22:17       ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-10-18  0:37         ` Florian Fainelli
2020-10-19  8:33       ` David Laight
2020-10-19 10:30         ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-10-19 11:14           ` David Laight
2020-10-19 11:41             ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-10-19 12:19           ` Andrew Lunn [this message]
2020-10-17 22:31     ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-10-18  0:13       ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-10-18 10:36         ` Christian Eggers
2020-10-18 11:42           ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-10-18 11:59             ` Christian Eggers
2020-10-18 12:15               ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-10-17 21:36 ` [RFC PATCH 03/13] net: dsa: tag_ksz: don't allocate additional memory for padding/tagging Vladimir Oltean
2020-10-17 21:36 ` [RFC PATCH 04/13] net: dsa: trailer: " Vladimir Oltean
2020-10-17 21:36 ` [RFC PATCH 05/13] net: dsa: tag_qca: let DSA core deal with TX reallocation Vladimir Oltean
2020-10-17 21:36 ` [RFC PATCH 06/13] net: dsa: tag_ocelot: " Vladimir Oltean
2020-10-17 21:36 ` [RFC PATCH 07/13] net: dsa: tag_mtk: " Vladimir Oltean
2020-10-17 21:36 ` [RFC PATCH 08/13] net: dsa: tag_lan9303: " Vladimir Oltean
2020-10-17 21:36 ` [RFC PATCH 09/13] net: dsa: tag_edsa: " Vladimir Oltean
2020-10-17 21:36 ` [RFC PATCH 10/13] net: dsa: tag_brcm: " Vladimir Oltean
2020-10-17 21:36 ` [RFC PATCH 11/13] net: dsa: tag_dsa: " Vladimir Oltean
2020-10-17 21:36 ` [RFC PATCH 12/13] net: dsa: tag_gswip: " Vladimir Oltean
2020-10-17 22:19   ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-10-17 21:36 ` [RFC PATCH 13/13] net: dsa: tag_ar9331: " Vladimir Oltean
2020-10-17 23:07 ` [RFC PATCH 00/13] Generic TX reallocation for DSA Andrew Lunn

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