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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>
Cc: Michael Jeanson <mjeanson@efficios.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>, Yonghong Song <yhs@fb.com>,
	"Paul E . McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>,
	Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>, Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
	bpf@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 6/6] tracing: use sched-RCU instead of SRCU for rcuidle tracepoints
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2020 09:20:10 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201026082010.GC2628@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201023211359.GC3563800@google.com>

On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 05:13:59PM -0400, Joel Fernandes wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 03:53:52PM -0400, Michael Jeanson wrote:
> > From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
> > 
> > Considering that tracer callbacks expect RCU to be watching (for
> > instance, perf uses rcu_read_lock), we need rcuidle tracepoints to issue
> > rcu_irq_{enter,exit}_irqson around calls to the callbacks. So there is
> > no point in using SRCU anymore given that rcuidle tracepoints need to
> > ensure RCU is watching. Therefore, simply use sched-RCU like normal
> > tracepoints for rcuidle tracepoints.
> 
> High level question:
> 
> IIRC, doing this increases overhead for general tracing that does not use
> perf, for 'rcuidle' tracepoints such as the preempt/irq enable/disable
> tracepoints. I remember adding SRCU because of this reason.
> 
> Can the 'rcuidle' information not be pushed down further, such that perf does
> it because it requires RCU to be watching, so that it does not effect, say,
> trace events?

There's very few trace_.*_rcuidle() users left. We should eradicate them
and remove the option. It's bugs to begin with.

  reply	other threads:[~2020-10-26  8:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-10-23 19:53 [RFC PATCH 0/6] Sleepable tracepoints Michael Jeanson
2020-10-23 19:53 ` [RFC PATCH 1/6] tracing: introduce sleepable tracepoints Michael Jeanson
2020-10-26 22:43   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2020-10-27 13:37     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2020-10-28 21:23       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2021-02-11 19:36         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2020-11-02 18:51       ` Joel Fernandes
2020-10-23 19:53 ` [RFC PATCH 2/6] tracing: ftrace: add support for " Michael Jeanson
2020-10-23 19:53 ` [RFC PATCH 3/6] tracing: bpf-trace: " Michael Jeanson
2020-10-23 19:53 ` [RFC PATCH 4/6] tracing: perf: " Michael Jeanson
2020-10-23 19:53 ` [RFC PATCH 5/6] tracing: convert sys_enter/exit to " Michael Jeanson
2020-10-23 19:53 ` [RFC PATCH 6/6] tracing: use sched-RCU instead of SRCU for rcuidle tracepoints Michael Jeanson
2020-10-23 21:13   ` Joel Fernandes
2020-10-26  8:20     ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2020-10-26 14:28       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2020-10-26 20:44         ` Steven Rostedt
2020-10-27 13:57           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2020-11-02 18:43         ` Joel Fernandes
2020-10-26 12:05 ` [RFC PATCH 0/6] Sleepable tracepoints peter enderborg
2020-10-26 14:59   ` Mathieu Desnoyers

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