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From: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Cc: "Kevin Wolf" <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	"xiaoqiang zhao" <zxq_yx_007@163.com>,
	QEMU <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"Marc-André Lureau" <marcandre.lureau@gmail.com>,
	"Gerd Hoffmann" <kraxel@redhat.com>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/11] sockets: Attempt to drain the abstract socket swamp
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2020 09:18:04 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201102091804.GC134709@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87zh40no5a.fsf@dusky.pond.sub.org>

On Mon, Nov 02, 2020 at 09:44:49AM +0100, Markus Armbruster wrote:
> Daniel P. Berrangé <berrange@redhat.com> writes:
> 
> > On Fri, Oct 30, 2020 at 11:11:19AM +0100, Markus Armbruster wrote:
> >> Marc-André Lureau <marcandre.lureau@gmail.com> writes:
> >> 
> >> > Hi Markus,
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 5:43 PM Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> In my opinion, the Linux-specific abstract UNIX domain socket feature
> >> >> introduced in 5.1 should have been rejected.  The feature is niche,
> >> >> the interface clumsy, the implementation buggy and incomplete, and the
> >> >> test coverage insufficient.  Review fail.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > I also failed (as chardev maintainer..) to not only review but weigh in and
> >> > discuss the merits or motivations behind it.
> >> >
> >> > I agree with you. Also the commit lacks motivation behind this "feature".
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> Fixing the parts we can still fix now is regrettably expensive.  If I
> >> >> had the power to decide, I'd unceremoniously revert the feature,
> >> >> compatibility to 5.1 be damned.  But I don't, so here we go.
> >> >>
> >> >> I'm not sure this set of fixes is complete.  However, I already spent
> >> >> too much time on this, so out it goes.  Lightly tested.
> >> >>
> >> >> Regardless, I *will* make time for ripping the feature out if we
> >> >> decide to do that.  Quick & easy way to avoid reviewing this series
> >> >> *hint* *hint*.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > well, fwiw, I would also take that approach too, to the risk of upsetting
> >> > the users.
> >> 
> >> Reverting the feature requires rough consensus and a patch.
> >> 
> >> I can provide a patch, but let's give everybody a chance to object
> >> first.
> 
> Daniel, do you object, yes or no?

Yes, I object to removing the feature as it is clearly useful.

Regards,
Daniel
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-11-02  9:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-10-29 13:38 [PATCH 00/11] sockets: Attempt to drain the abstract socket swamp Markus Armbruster
2020-10-29 13:38 ` [PATCH 01/11] test-util-sockets: Plug file descriptor leak Markus Armbruster
2020-10-29 17:59   ` Eric Blake
2020-10-29 13:38 ` [PATCH 02/11] test-util-sockets: Correct to set has_abstract, has_tight Markus Armbruster
2020-10-29 18:36   ` Eric Blake
2020-10-29 13:38 ` [PATCH 03/11] test-util-sockets: Clean up SocketAddress construction Markus Armbruster
2020-10-29 18:43   ` Eric Blake
2020-10-30  9:36   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-10-30 14:06     ` Markus Armbruster
2020-10-29 13:38 ` [PATCH 04/11] test-util-sockets: Factor out test_socket_unix_abstract_one() Markus Armbruster
2020-10-29 18:52   ` Eric Blake
2020-10-29 13:38 ` [PATCH 05/11] test-util-sockets: Synchronize properly, don't sleep(1) Markus Armbruster
2020-10-29 18:54   ` Eric Blake
2020-10-30  6:40     ` Markus Armbruster
2020-10-29 13:38 ` [PATCH 06/11] test-util-sockets: Test the complete abstract socket matrix Markus Armbruster
2020-10-29 19:19   ` Eric Blake
2020-10-30  9:33   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-10-30 14:14     ` Markus Armbruster
2020-10-29 13:38 ` [PATCH 07/11] sockets: Fix default of UnixSocketAddress member @tight Markus Armbruster
2020-10-29 17:39   ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-10-29 18:05     ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-10-30  6:58       ` Markus Armbruster
2020-10-29 19:34   ` Eric Blake
2020-10-30  6:54     ` Markus Armbruster
2020-10-29 13:38 ` [PATCH 08/11] sockets: Fix socket_sockaddr_to_address_unix() for abstract sockets Markus Armbruster
2020-10-29 17:47   ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-10-30  8:56     ` Markus Armbruster
2020-10-29 19:38   ` Eric Blake
2020-10-30  9:04     ` Markus Armbruster
2020-10-30 12:39       ` Eric Blake
2020-10-29 13:38 ` [PATCH 09/11] char-socket: Fix qemu_chr_socket_address() " Markus Armbruster
2020-10-29 19:41   ` Eric Blake
2020-10-30  9:09     ` Markus Armbruster
2020-10-29 13:38 ` [PATCH 10/11] sockets: Bypass "replace empty @path" for abstract unix sockets Markus Armbruster
2020-10-29 19:42   ` Eric Blake
2020-10-29 13:38 ` [PATCH 11/11] sockets: Make abstract UnixSocketAddress depend on CONFIG_LINUX Markus Armbruster
2020-10-29 19:54   ` Eric Blake
2020-10-30  9:25     ` Markus Armbruster
2020-10-29 13:53 ` [PATCH 00/11] sockets: Attempt to drain the abstract socket swamp Marc-André Lureau
2020-10-30 10:11   ` Markus Armbruster
2020-10-30 10:20     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-11-02  8:44       ` Markus Armbruster
2020-11-02  8:57         ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-11-02  9:18         ` Daniel P. Berrangé [this message]
2020-11-02  9:59           ` Markus Armbruster
2020-11-02 10:02             ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-11-02 11:58               ` Markus Armbruster
2020-10-29 18:06 ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-10-30 10:12   ` Markus Armbruster

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