From: Alexandre Belloni <alexandre.belloni@bootlin.com>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>,
Miroslav Lichvar <mlichvar@redhat.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>,
Prarit Bhargava <prarit@redhat.com>,
Alessandro Zummo <a.zummo@towertech.it>,
linux-rtc@vger.kernel.org, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] rtc: adapt allowed RTC update error
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2020 10:51:38 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201204095138.GG74177@piout.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87im9hc3u2.fsf@nanos.tec.linutronix.de>
On 04/12/2020 10:34:13+0100, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 03 2020 at 23:00, Alexandre Belloni wrote:
> > On 03/12/2020 22:05:09+0100, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> >> 2) I2C/SPI ...
> >>
> >> tsched t0 t1 t2
> >> transfer(newsec) RTC update (newsec) RTC increments seconds
> >>
> >> Lets assume that ttransfer = t1 - t0 is known.
> >
> > Note that ttransfer is one of the reason why setting set_offset_nsec
> > from the RTC driver is not a good idea. The same RTC may be on busses
> > with different rates and there is no way to know that. I think that was
> > one of my objections at the time.
> >
> > ttransfer is not a function of the RTC model but rather of how it is
> > integrated in the system.
>
> Yes, but it's the right place to store that information.
>
> It's a fundamental problem of the RTC driver because that's the one
> which has to be able to tell the caller about it. The caller has
> absolutely no way to figure it out because it does not even know what
> type of RTC is there.
>
> So either the RTC knows the requirements for tsched, e.g. the MC14xxx
> datasheet, or it can retrieve that information from DT or by querying
> the underlying bus mechanics for the xfer time estimate or just by
> timing an xfer for reference.
>
What I do from userspace is that the caller is the one estimating the
transfer time and this works very well. I really think that the ntp code
could do just the same.
--
Alexandre Belloni, Bootlin
Embedded Linux and Kernel engineering
https://bootlin.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-12-04 9:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-12-01 14:38 [PATCH] rtc: adapt allowed RTC update error Miroslav Lichvar
2020-12-01 16:12 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-12-01 17:14 ` Miroslav Lichvar
2020-12-01 17:35 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-12-02 10:01 ` [PATCHv2] " Miroslav Lichvar
2020-12-02 13:44 ` [PATCH] " Thomas Gleixner
2020-12-02 15:07 ` Miroslav Lichvar
2020-12-02 15:36 ` Miroslav Lichvar
2020-12-02 18:36 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-12-02 16:27 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-12-02 19:21 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-12-02 20:54 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-12-02 22:08 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-12-02 23:03 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-12-03 1:14 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-12-03 2:04 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-12-03 2:10 ` Alexandre Belloni
2020-12-03 15:39 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-12-03 16:16 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-12-03 21:05 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-12-03 21:31 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-12-03 22:36 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-12-04 13:02 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-12-04 14:08 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-12-04 14:37 ` Alexandre Belloni
2020-12-04 14:46 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-12-04 15:08 ` Alexandre Belloni
2020-12-04 15:57 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-12-04 16:35 ` Alexandre Belloni
2020-12-03 22:00 ` Alexandre Belloni
2020-12-04 9:34 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-12-04 9:51 ` Alexandre Belloni [this message]
2020-12-04 10:44 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-12-03 17:29 ` Alexandre Belloni
2020-12-03 19:52 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-12-03 15:52 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-12-03 16:07 ` Alexandre Belloni
2020-12-03 20:10 ` Jason Gunthorpe
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