From: Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>
To: John Snow <jsnow@redhat.com>
Cc: "Michael Roth" <michael.roth@amd.com>,
"Cleber Rosa" <crosa@redhat.com>,
"Markus Armbruster" <armbru@redhat.com>,
"Marc-André Lureau" <marcandre.lureau@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 07/12] qapi/schema: make QAPISourceInfo mandatory
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2021 19:29:44 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210114002944.GI4161@habkost.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fe49fccd-dce1-44ee-71c5-f696f69f5361@redhat.com>
On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 06:04:29PM -0500, John Snow wrote:
> On 1/13/21 11:12 AM, Markus Armbruster wrote:
> > John Snow <jsnow@redhat.com> writes:
> >
> > > Signed-off-by: John Snow <jsnow@redhat.com>
> > >
> > > ---
> > >
> > > The event_enum_members change might become irrelevant after a
> > > forthcoming (?) patch by Markus, but didn't have it in-hand at time of
> > > publishing.
> >
> > It's in my "[PATCH 00/11] Drop support for QAPIGen without a file name",
> > which includes parts of your v1. The parts that are new should be
> > injected into your series so they replace your "[PATCH v2 09/12]
> > qapi/gen: move write method to QAPIGenC, make fname a str". Holler if
> > you need help.
> >
> > > Signed-off-by: John Snow <jsnow@redhat.com>
> > > ---
> > > scripts/qapi/events.py | 2 +-
> > > scripts/qapi/schema.py | 25 ++++++++++++++-----------
> > > scripts/qapi/types.py | 9 +++++----
> > > scripts/qapi/visit.py | 6 +++---
> > > 4 files changed, 23 insertions(+), 19 deletions(-)
> > >
> > > diff --git a/scripts/qapi/events.py b/scripts/qapi/events.py
> > > index 9851653b9d1..9ba4f109028 100644
> > > --- a/scripts/qapi/events.py
> > > +++ b/scripts/qapi/events.py
> > > @@ -225,7 +225,7 @@ def visit_event(self,
> > > self._event_emit_name))
> > > # Note: we generate the enum member regardless of @ifcond, to
> > > # keep the enumeration usable in target-independent code.
> > > - self._event_enum_members.append(QAPISchemaEnumMember(name, None))
> > > + self._event_enum_members.append(QAPISchemaEnumMember(name, info))
> >
> > This "enum" is not supposed to be erroneous. If it is, it's a bug.
> >
> > Your patch changes how the code behaves should such a bug bite here.
> > Before, we crash. Afterwards, we report the bug using @info, which I'd
> > expect to produce utterly confusing error messages.
> >
>
> It doesn't change the behavior *here*, though. It changes it whenever this
> info object is used in another context. ... and who knows when or where or
> why it is being used, or by whom.
>
> I'll have to play with this. I'm not sure there's any way to coax a bug to
> happen here that I am aware of right away. Can you think of how to will one
> into existence?
>
> > My comments on PATCH 06 apply: how the code should behave here is a
> > design issue that should be kept out of this patch series.
> >
> > If you need to pass a value other than None to help with static typing,
> > then pass a suitable poison info that will crash right where None
> > crashes now.
I don't understand what would be the point of inventing something
that behaves exactly like None but makes type checking less
useful.
With None/Optional, mypy gives us a way to be 100% sure the
object isn't going to invalid. With a poison value, mypy can't
tell us anymore if the code risks crashing at runtime.
> >
>
> I think we need to, yes; or we probably really, really want to. Making the
> info parameter optional really adds a lot of unidiomatic type-checking
> confetti when we go to use info, and in many more contexts than just this
> sorta-built-in-enum; it will creep badly.
Which methods would require unidiomatic type-checking because of
None/Optional?
>
> So, I gotta pass ...something here. but what? You want poison, but I think
> it's not right to fundamentally poison all built-ins.
>
> Mmmmmmm. Maybe per-instance poison can be done? We actually share info
> objects, but I can make poisoned copies. Using next_line() as a basis:
>
> def poison(self: T) -> T:
> info = copy.copy(self)
> info.poisoned = True
> return info
>
> probably almost anything I do is not going to make a lot of sense unless I
> can actually replicate and test the different error scenarios to prove that
> we didn't make the error spaghetti unknowably worse. I see it as
> functionally inevitable that I have to audit this and make sure we get good
> error messages anyway, so ... maybe I just ought to do that now anyway.
>
> > > def gen_events(schema: QAPISchema,
> > > diff --git a/scripts/qapi/schema.py b/scripts/qapi/schema.py
> > > index 720449feee4..0449771dfe5 100644
> > > --- a/scripts/qapi/schema.py
> > > +++ b/scripts/qapi/schema.py
> > > @@ -23,6 +23,7 @@
> > > from .error import QAPIError, QAPISemError
> > > from .expr import check_exprs
> > > from .parser import QAPISchemaParser
> > > +from .source import QAPISourceInfo
> > > class QAPISchemaEntity:
> > > @@ -36,10 +37,10 @@ def __init__(self, name, info, doc, ifcond=None, features=None):
> > > self.name = name
> > > self._module = None
> > > # For explicitly defined entities, info points to the (explicit)
> > > - # definition. For builtins (and their arrays), info is None.
> > > - # For implicitly defined entities, info points to a place that
> > > - # triggered the implicit definition (there may be more than one
> > > - # such place).
> > > + # definition. For built-in types (and their arrays), info is a
> > > + # special object that evaluates to False. For implicitly defined
> > > + # entities, info points to a place that triggered the implicit
> > > + # definition (there may be more than one such place).
> > > self.info = info
> > > self.doc = doc
> > > self._ifcond = ifcond or []
> > > @@ -68,7 +69,7 @@ def check_doc(self):
> > > def _set_module(self, schema, info):
> > > assert self._checked
> > > - self._module = schema.module_by_fname(info and info.fname)
> > > + self._module = schema.module_by_fname(info.fname if info else None)
> >
> > Looks unrelated.
> >
>
> Hmm, it sorta is. I have apparently edited this patch since I sent it, but
> there was some tomfoolery over how "x and y" statements behave and this edit
> was necessary at the time.
>
> "info and info.fname" returned None when info could actually be None, but
> when it was updated to be a special source object, we could accidentally
> pass that special source object as the name -- instead of None. Not good.
>
> I think I re-ordered some patches such that I can just pass in "info.fname"
> unconditionally instead as of this patch.
>
> > > self._module.add_entity(self)
> > > def set_module(self, schema):
> > [...]
> >
>
--
Eduardo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-01-14 0:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-12-17 1:59 [PATCH v2 00/12] qapi: static typing conversion, pt1.5 John Snow
2020-12-17 1:59 ` [PATCH v2 01/12] qapi/commands: assert arg_type is not None John Snow
2020-12-17 1:59 ` [PATCH v2 02/12] qapi/events: fix visit_event typing John Snow
2020-12-17 1:59 ` [PATCH v2 03/12] qapi/main: handle theoretical None-return from re.match() John Snow
2020-12-17 1:59 ` [PATCH v2 04/12] qapi/gen: assert that _start_if is not None in _wrap_ifcond John Snow
2021-01-13 15:14 ` Markus Armbruster
2021-01-13 21:34 ` John Snow
2020-12-17 1:59 ` [PATCH v2 05/12] qapi/gen: use './builtin' for the built-in module name John Snow
2020-12-17 1:59 ` [PATCH v2 06/12] qapi/source: Add builtin null-object sentinel John Snow
2021-01-13 15:39 ` Markus Armbruster
2021-01-13 22:30 ` John Snow
2021-01-14 13:39 ` Markus Armbruster
2021-01-18 18:36 ` Eduardo Habkost
2021-01-19 10:21 ` Markus Armbruster
2021-01-19 16:10 ` Eduardo Habkost
2020-12-17 1:59 ` [PATCH v2 07/12] qapi/schema: make QAPISourceInfo mandatory John Snow
2021-01-13 16:12 ` Markus Armbruster
2021-01-13 23:04 ` John Snow
2021-01-14 0:29 ` Eduardo Habkost [this message]
2021-01-14 0:47 ` John Snow
2020-12-17 1:59 ` [PATCH v2 08/12] qapi/gen: write _genc/_genh access shims John Snow
2020-12-17 1:59 ` [PATCH v2 09/12] qapi/gen: move write method to QAPIGenC, make fname a str John Snow
2020-12-17 1:59 ` [PATCH v2 10/12] tests/qapi-schema: Add quotes to module name in test output John Snow
2020-12-17 1:59 ` [PATCH v2 11/12] qapi/schema: Name the builtin module "" instead of None John Snow
2020-12-17 1:59 ` [PATCH v2 12/12] qapi: enable strict-optional checks John Snow
2021-01-13 16:23 ` [PATCH v2 00/12] qapi: static typing conversion, pt1.5 Markus Armbruster
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