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From: Halil Pasic <pasic@linux.ibm.com>
To: Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>
Cc: Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
	qemu-s390x@nongnu.org, Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] pc-bios/s390-ccw: Use memory barriers in virtio code
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2021 18:11:46 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210216181146.54370a29.pasic@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <72e9a5b3-dd88-85de-e4a8-88a6a9c45099@redhat.com>

On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 17:15:19 +0100
Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com> wrote:

> >> (Note: The virtio spec also talks about using a memory barrier
> >> *after* incrementing the idx field, but if I understood correctly
> >> this is only required when using notification suppression - which
> >> we don't use in the s390-ccw bios here)  
> > 
> > I suggest to the barrier after incrementing the idx field for two
> > reasons. First: If the device were to see the notification, but
> > not see the incremented idx field, it would effectively loose
> > initiative. That is pretty straight forward, because the
> > notification just says 'check out that queue', and if we don't
> > see the incremented index, miss the buffer that was made available
> > by incrementing idx.  
> 
> I was just about to reply that this is certainly not necessary, since
> the DIAGNOSE instruction that we use for the notification hypercall
> should be serializing anyway ... but after looking at the PoP, it
> actually is not marked as a serializing instruction! (while e.g.
> SVC - supervisor call - is explicitly marked as serializing)

I was talking about whether a suitable barrier is needed, from
virtio perspective. How the suitable barrier is put in place is a
different issue.

Regards,
Halil


  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-02-16 17:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-02-16 11:00 [PATCH] pc-bios/s390-ccw: Use memory barriers in virtio code Thomas Huth
2021-02-16 11:43 ` Peter Maydell
2021-02-16 11:47   ` Thomas Huth
2021-02-16 11:47 ` Cornelia Huck
2021-02-16 14:21   ` Thomas Huth
2021-02-16 14:30     ` Cornelia Huck
2021-02-16 14:32       ` Peter Maydell
2021-02-16 14:35         ` Thomas Huth
2021-02-16 14:37           ` Peter Maydell
2021-02-16 14:49             ` Cornelia Huck
2021-02-16 14:40 ` Halil Pasic
2021-02-16 15:17   ` Cornelia Huck
2021-02-16 16:15   ` Thomas Huth
2021-02-16 16:44     ` Peter Maydell
2021-02-16 17:11     ` Halil Pasic [this message]
2021-02-17  4:31     ` Richard Henderson
2021-02-17 11:15       ` Peter Maydell
2021-02-17 15:11         ` Richard Henderson

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