From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.8 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS, URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2B95C433E0 for ; Thu, 18 Mar 2021 08:06:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7910F64F33 for ; Thu, 18 Mar 2021 08:06:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S229637AbhCRIGT (ORCPT ); Thu, 18 Mar 2021 04:06:19 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:56584 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S229540AbhCRIGK (ORCPT ); Thu, 18 Mar 2021 04:06:10 -0400 X-Greylist: delayed 940 seconds by postgrey-1.37 at lindbergh.monkeyblade.net; Thu, 18 Mar 2021 01:06:10 PDT Received: from mail.sernet.de (mail.sernet.de [IPv6:2a0a:a3c0:0:25::217:2]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 61692C06174A for ; Thu, 18 Mar 2021 01:06:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from intern.sernet.de by mail.sernet.de with esmtps (Exim Mail Transfer Agent) for linux-cifs@vger.kernel.org id 1lMnQH-00037x-Bg; Thu, 18 Mar 2021 08:50:25 +0100 Received: by intern.sernet.de id 1lMnQH-0004UU-8Q; Thu, 18 Mar 2021 08:50:25 +0100 Received: from bjacke by pell.sernet.de with local (Exim 4.93) (envelope-from ) id 1lMnQH-002WIB-2m for linux-cifs@vger.kernel.org; Thu, 18 Mar 2021 08:50:25 +0100 Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2021 08:50:25 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F6rn?= JACKE Cc: linux-cifs@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: we actually need richacls ... Message-ID: <20210318075025.GA600594@sernet.de> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: X-Q: Die Schriftsteller koennen nicht so schnell schreiben, wie die Regierungen Kriege machen; denn das Schreiben verlangt Denkarbeit. - Brecht To: unlisted-recipients:; (no To-header on input) Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-cifs@vger.kernel.org On 2021-03-18 at 07:33 +0000 samba-bugs@samba.org sent off: > --- Comment #1 from Björn Jacke --- > Generlly much of the cifsacl stuff is really nice bug with the outstanding > bugs, some of those that Micah reported, cifs vfs with NT ACLs is just not > usable and people who *need* to use full NT ACLs with a POSIX client have no > other option than using a different OS with native NFS4 ACLs support like > FreeBSD currently. it would also be great if the cifs developers would all trogether try to convince the kernel developers that the richacl implmentation gets upstreamed. cifs vfs urgently needs it. NT ACLs on POSIX clients are practically unusabe without having richalcs. Same for the upcoming cifs kernel server. I tried to bring up the richacl topic a while ago on the kerenel mailing list but the voices of many of the cifs developers will be much more significant and can not so easily be ignored by the kernel maintainer I think. Björn