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From: Jonathan Cameron <Jonathan.Cameron@Huawei.com>
To: "Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@redhat.com>
Cc: "Peter Maydell" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	"Ben Widawsky" <ben.widawsky@intel.com>,
	"David Hildenbrand" <david@redhat.com>,
	"Andrew Jeffery" <andrew@aj.id.au>,
	"Francisco Iglesias" <frasse.iglesias@gmail.com>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	"Chris Browy" <cbrowy@avery-design.com>,
	Linuxarm <linuxarm@huawei.com>, "Peter Xu" <peterx@redhat.com>,
	"QEMU Developers" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Igor Mammedov" <imammedo@redhat.com>,
	"Dan Williams" <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	"Alex Bennée" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: RFC: Memory region accesses where .valid.min_access_size < .impl.min_access_size
Date: Thu, 13 May 2021 14:00:18 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210513140018.00004560@Huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2d5fdb5f-36d3-c998-ee36-f9d66cea7120@redhat.com>

On Thu, 13 May 2021 14:36:27 +0200
Philippe Mathieu-Daudé <philmd@redhat.com> wrote:

> On 5/13/21 2:23 PM, Peter Maydell wrote:
> > On Thu, 13 May 2021 at 12:49, Jonathan Cameron
> > <Jonathan.Cameron@huawei.com> wrote:  
> >> My initial suggestion was to fix this by adding the relatively
> >> simple code needed in the driver to implement byte read / write,
> >> but Ben pointed at the QEMU docs - docs/devel/memory.rst which
> >> says
> >> "
> >> .impl.min_access_size, .impl.max_access_size define the access sizes
> >>    (in bytes) supported by the *implementation*; other access sizes will be
> >>    emulated using the ones available. For example a 4-byte write will be
> >>    emulated using four 1-byte writes, if .impl.max_access_size = 1.
> >> "
> >>
> >> This isn't true when we have the situation where
> >> .valid.min_access_size < .imp.min_access_size
> >>
> >> So change the docs or try to make this work?  
> 
> See also this patch from Francisco:
> https://www.mail-archive.com/qemu-devel@nongnu.org/msg636935.html
> 
> And full unaligned access support from Andrew:
> https://www.mail-archive.com/qemu-devel@nongnu.org/msg461247.html

Thanks - that's very similar to what I was carrying, but I think it
only covers the read case.  That's backed up by the comment:
/* XXX: Can't do this hack for writes */

> 
> > I don't (yet) have a view on what the in-principle right thing
> > should be, but in practice: how many devices do we have which
> > set .valid.min_access_size < .imp.min_access_size ? If we want
> > to change the semantics we'd need to look at those to see if they
> > need to be adjusted (or if they're just currently buggy and would
> > be fixed by the change).

I'm only aware of this one CXL emulated device (+ the proposed code in
the ADC in the above patch set).  For the CXL device, working around
this limitation is straight forward if that's the right option
+ updating the docs to slightly reduced chances of this being hit in
the future.

Thanks,

Jonathan

> > 
> > thanks
> > -- PMM
> >   
> 



  reply	other threads:[~2021-05-13 13:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-13 11:47 RFC: Memory region accesses where .valid.min_access_size < .impl.min_access_size Jonathan Cameron
2021-05-13 12:23 ` Peter Maydell
2021-05-13 12:36   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-05-13 13:00     ` Jonathan Cameron [this message]
2021-05-13 13:32       ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-05-14  2:05       ` Andrew Jeffery
2021-05-14  9:39         ` Jonathan Cameron

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