From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7467BC433EF for ; Thu, 30 Sep 2021 15:12:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from alsa0.perex.cz (alsa0.perex.cz [77.48.224.243]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 606A3615E5 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 2021 15:12:40 +0000 (UTC) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.1 mail.kernel.org 606A3615E5 Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=mrbrklyn.com Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=alsa-project.org Received: from alsa1.perex.cz (alsa1.perex.cz [207.180.221.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by alsa0.perex.cz (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F178616C2; Thu, 30 Sep 2021 17:11:48 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 alsa0.perex.cz F178616C2 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=alsa-project.org; s=default; t=1633014759; bh=UszC3uVWm8neBD7sr19m9jVI9ymJweEKhoaQYEXla+k=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Cc:List-Id: List-Unsubscribe:List-Archive:List-Post:List-Help:List-Subscribe: From; b=pvCQfZVBr5HTDSBFA00aXY0zArY8lxtiRsGuqJPphwfWxv6frLAXEqGpLI1NJFfYm yf2aheIobMULe8IQa5U9s4g38J5F1k1TexFNdUbp1PiVQYL6q46nx+vVOvzGoGt6V9 mBgWmv22JoyjRcisxvX25nK3pqynEu3Q3lpE6Z0c= Received: from alsa1.perex.cz (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by alsa1.perex.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36061F804D2; Thu, 30 Sep 2021 17:11:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: by alsa1.perex.cz (Postfix, from userid 50401) id 98603F80227; Wed, 29 Sep 2021 16:59:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mrbrklyn.com (www2.mrbrklyn.com [96.57.23.82]) by alsa1.perex.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F7CBF80105 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 2021 16:59:17 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 alsa1.perex.cz 0F7CBF80105 Received: by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id EE421163F8F; Wed, 29 Sep 2021 10:59:13 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2021 10:59:13 -0400 From: Ruben Safir To: jim.cromie@gmail.com Subject: Re: ALSA kernel projects - for academic purposes Message-ID: <20210929145913.GA15841@www2.mrbrklyn.com> References: <324112.1632501120@turing-police> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 30 Sep 2021 17:11:01 +0200 Cc: Muni Sekhar , alsa-devel , Valdis =?utf-8?Q?Kl=C4=93tnieks?= , linux-sound@vger.kernel.org, kernelnewbies X-BeenThere: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Alsa-devel mailing list for ALSA developers - http://www.alsa-project.org" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: alsa-devel-bounces@alsa-project.org Sender: "Alsa-devel" On Fri, Sep 24, 2021 at 11:15:35AM -0600, jim.cromie@gmail.com wrote: > On Fri, Sep 24, 2021 at 10:58 AM Muni Sekhar wrote: > > > > On Fri, Sep 24, 2021 at 10:02 PM Valdis Klētnieks > > wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, 24 Sep 2021 19:34:59 +0530, Muni Sekhar said: > > > > What small projects would you suggest to a novice with the ALSA > > > > kernel. The aim is to develop a familiarity with the ALSA kernel > > > > source code, and also to submit it for academic purposes. > > > > > > A good place to start is getting a good handle on what the phrase "the ALSA > > > kernel" even means. > > Basically looking for kernel space audio subsystem projects rather > > than its user-space library(alsa-lib) and utilities(alsa-utils). > > why ? > if your interest is better sound, then improving user-space is going > to be more productive. Because he wants to, that is why. It is his agenda, not yours. I am not sure if people percieve just how much of a jerk they sound when they routely redirect a question to their favorite view of how the world should work. Either help or shut up From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0205DC433F5 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 2021 15:00:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from shelob.surriel.com (shelob.surriel.com [96.67.55.147]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2AF8B613A6 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 2021 15:00:06 +0000 (UTC) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.1 mail.kernel.org 2AF8B613A6 Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=mrbrklyn.com Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=kernelnewbies.org Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=shelob.surriel.com) by shelob.surriel.com with esmtp (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1mVb3F-0008Oy-JC; Wed, 29 Sep 2021 10:59:17 -0400 Received: from www2.mrbrklyn.com ([96.57.23.82] helo=mrbrklyn.com) by shelob.surriel.com with esmtp (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1mVb3D-0008Oe-Mw for kernelnewbies@kernelnewbies.org; Wed, 29 Sep 2021 10:59:15 -0400 Received: by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id EE421163F8F; Wed, 29 Sep 2021 10:59:13 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2021 10:59:13 -0400 From: Ruben Safir To: jim.cromie@gmail.com Subject: Re: ALSA kernel projects - for academic purposes Message-ID: <20210929145913.GA15841@www2.mrbrklyn.com> References: <324112.1632501120@turing-police> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: Muni Sekhar , alsa-devel , Valdis =?utf-8?Q?Kl=C4=93tnieks?= , linux-sound@vger.kernel.org, kernelnewbies X-BeenThere: kernelnewbies@kernelnewbies.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Learn about the Linux kernel List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Errors-To: kernelnewbies-bounces@kernelnewbies.org T24gRnJpLCBTZXAgMjQsIDIwMjEgYXQgMTE6MTU6MzVBTSAtMDYwMCwgamltLmNyb21pZUBnbWFp bC5jb20gd3JvdGU6Cj4gT24gRnJpLCBTZXAgMjQsIDIwMjEgYXQgMTA6NTggQU0gTXVuaSBTZWto YXIgPG11bmlzZWtoYXJybXNAZ21haWwuY29tPiB3cm90ZToKPiA+Cj4gPiBPbiBGcmksIFNlcCAy NCwgMjAyMSBhdCAxMDowMiBQTSBWYWxkaXMgS2zEk3RuaWVrcwo+ID4gPHZhbGRpcy5rbGV0bmll a3NAdnQuZWR1PiB3cm90ZToKPiA+ID4KPiA+ID4gT24gRnJpLCAyNCBTZXAgMjAyMSAxOTozNDo1 OSArMDUzMCwgTXVuaSBTZWtoYXIgc2FpZDoKPiA+ID4gPiBXaGF0IHNtYWxsIHByb2plY3RzIHdv dWxkIHlvdSBzdWdnZXN0IHRvIGEgbm92aWNlIHdpdGggdGhlIEFMU0EKPiA+ID4gPiBrZXJuZWwu IFRoZSBhaW0gaXMgdG8gZGV2ZWxvcCBhIGZhbWlsaWFyaXR5IHdpdGggdGhlIEFMU0Ega2VybmVs Cj4gPiA+ID4gc291cmNlIGNvZGUsIGFuZCBhbHNvIHRvIHN1Ym1pdCBpdCBmb3IgYWNhZGVtaWMg cHVycG9zZXMuCj4gPiA+Cj4gPiA+IEEgZ29vZCBwbGFjZSB0byBzdGFydCBpcyBnZXR0aW5nIGEg Z29vZCBoYW5kbGUgb24gd2hhdCB0aGUgcGhyYXNlICJ0aGUgQUxTQQo+ID4gPiBrZXJuZWwiIGV2 ZW4gbWVhbnMuCj4gPiBCYXNpY2FsbHkgbG9va2luZyBmb3Iga2VybmVsIHNwYWNlIGF1ZGlvIHN1 YnN5c3RlbSBwcm9qZWN0cyByYXRoZXIKPiA+IHRoYW4gaXRzIHVzZXItc3BhY2UgbGlicmFyeShh bHNhLWxpYikgYW5kIHV0aWxpdGllcyhhbHNhLXV0aWxzKS4KPiAKPiB3aHkgPwo+IGlmIHlvdXIg aW50ZXJlc3QgaXMgYmV0dGVyIHNvdW5kLCB0aGVuIGltcHJvdmluZyB1c2VyLXNwYWNlIGlzIGdv aW5nCj4gdG8gYmUgbW9yZSBwcm9kdWN0aXZlLgoKCkJlY2F1c2UgaGUgd2FudHMgdG8sIHRoYXQg aXMgd2h5LiAgSXQgaXMgaGlzIGFnZW5kYSwgbm90IHlvdXJzLgoKSSBhbSBub3Qgc3VyZSBpZiBw ZW9wbGUgcGVyY2lldmUganVzdCBob3cgbXVjaCBvZiBhIGplcmsgdGhleSBzb3VuZCB3aGVuCnRo ZXkgcm91dGVseSByZWRpcmVjdCBhIHF1ZXN0aW9uIHRvIHRoZWlyIGZhdm9yaXRlIHZpZXcgb2Yg aG93IHRoZSB3b3JsZApzaG91bGQgd29yay4KCkVpdGhlciBoZWxwIG9yIHNodXQgdXAKCgpfX19f X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fXwpLZXJuZWxuZXdiaWVz IG1haWxpbmcgbGlzdApLZXJuZWxuZXdiaWVzQGtlcm5lbG5ld2JpZXMub3JnCmh0dHBzOi8vbGlz dHMua2VybmVsbmV3Ymllcy5vcmcvbWFpbG1hbi9saXN0aW5mby9rZXJuZWxuZXdiaWVzCg== From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Ruben Safir Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2021 14:59:13 +0000 Subject: Re: ALSA kernel projects - for academic purposes Message-Id: <20210929145913.GA15841@www2.mrbrklyn.com> List-Id: References: <324112.1632501120@turing-police> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To: jim.cromie@gmail.com Cc: Muni Sekhar , alsa-devel , Valdis =?utf-8?Q?Kl=C4=93tnieks?= , linux-sound@vger.kernel.org, kernelnewbies On Fri, Sep 24, 2021 at 11:15:35AM -0600, jim.cromie@gmail.com wrote: > On Fri, Sep 24, 2021 at 10:58 AM Muni Sekhar wr= ote: > > > > On Fri, Sep 24, 2021 at 10:02 PM Valdis Kl=C4=93tnieks > > wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, 24 Sep 2021 19:34:59 +0530, Muni Sekhar said: > > > > What small projects would you suggest to a novice with the ALSA > > > > kernel. The aim is to develop a familiarity with the ALSA kernel > > > > source code, and also to submit it for academic purposes. > > > > > > A good place to start is getting a good handle on what the phrase "th= e ALSA > > > kernel" even means. > > Basically looking for kernel space audio subsystem projects rather > > than its user-space library(alsa-lib) and utilities(alsa-utils). >=20 > why ? > if your interest is better sound, then improving user-space is going > to be more productive. Because he wants to, that is why. It is his agenda, not yours. I am not sure if people percieve just how much of a jerk they sound when they routely redirect a question to their favorite view of how the world should work. Either help or shut up