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From: Szabolcs Nagy <szabolcs.nagy@arm.com>
To: Dan Li <ashimida@linux.alibaba.com>
Cc: gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org, linux-hardening@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] [RFC][PR102768] aarch64: Add compiler support for Shadow Call Stack
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2021 12:00:47 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20211103120047.GU1982710@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fb3b7de8-7494-3190-1684-34fcbe9e1aa5@linux.alibaba.com>

The 11/03/2021 00:24, Dan Li wrote:
> On 11/2/21 9:04 PM, Szabolcs Nagy wrote:
> > The 11/02/2021 00:06, Dan Li via Gcc-patches wrote:
> > > Shadow Call Stack can be used to protect the return address of a
> > > function at runtime, and clang already supports this feature[1].
> > > 
> > > To enable SCS in user mode, in addition to compiler, other support
> > > is also required (as described in [2]). This patch only adds basic
> > > support for SCS from the compiler side, and provides convenience
> > > for users to enable SCS.
> > > 
> > > For linux kernel, only the support of the compiler is required.
> > > 
> > > [1] https://clang.llvm.org/docs/ShadowCallStack.html
> > > [2] https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=102768
> > 
> > i'm not a gcc maintainer, but i prefer such feature
> > to be in upstream gcc instead of in a plugin.
> > 
> > it will require update to the documentation:
> > 
> > which should mention that it depends on -ffixed-x18
> > (probably that should be enforced too) which is an
> > important abi issue: functions following the normal
> > pcs can clobber x18 and break scs.
> > 
> Thanks Szabolcs, I will update the documentation in next version.
> 
> It sounds reasonable to enforced -ffixed-x18 with scs, but I see
> that clang doesn’t do that. Maybe it is better to be consistent
> with clang here?

i mean gcc can issue a diagnostic if -ffixed-x18 is not passed.
(it seems clang rejects scs too without -ffixed-x18)

> > and that there is no unwinder support.
> > 
> Ok, let me try to add a support for this.

i assume exception handling info has to change for scs to
work (to pop the shadow stack when transferring control),
so either scs must require -fno-exceptions or the eh info
changes must be implemented.

i think the kernel does not require exceptions and does
not depend on the unwinder runtime in libgcc, so this
is optional for the linux kernel use-case.

  reply	other threads:[~2021-11-03 12:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-11-02  7:06 [PATCH] [RFC][PR102768] aarch64: Add compiler support for Shadow Call Stack Dan Li
2021-11-02 13:04 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2021-11-02 16:24   ` Dan Li
2021-11-03 12:00     ` Szabolcs Nagy [this message]
2021-11-23  8:32       ` Dan Li
2021-11-23 10:51         ` Szabolcs Nagy
2021-11-23 13:39           ` Dan Li
2021-12-06  2:41 ` [PATCH] [PATCH,v2,1/1,AARCH64][PR102768] " Dan Li
2021-12-06  3:22   ` Dan Li
2022-01-04 14:40 ` [PING^2][PATCH,v2,1/1,AARCH64][PR102768] " Dan Li
     [not found] ` <81d54b71-7c9c-47ef-ac8d-72aae46cd4ee@linux.alibaba.com>
     [not found]   ` <mptk0euk42w.fsf@arm.com>
     [not found]     ` <a9daf6bf-94f2-0c5f-b9aa-7fb69781c9d5@linux.alibaba.com>
     [not found]       ` <mpto840kti9.fsf@arm.com>
     [not found]         ` <3ae4a533-352b-f3e3-27b3-9386df5f56c3@linux.alibaba.com>
2022-01-26  7:53           ` [PING^3][PATCH,v2,1/1,AARCH64][PR102768] " Dan Li
2022-01-26  8:10             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-01-26 10:35               ` Dan Li
2022-01-26 11:09                 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-01-26 14:08                   ` Dan Li
2022-01-31 16:26                 ` Richard Sandiford
2022-02-02  9:25                   ` Dan Li

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