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From: Oleksii Moisieiev <Oleksii_Moisieiev@epam.com>
To: Stefano Stabellini <sstabellini@kernel.org>
Cc: Julien Grall <julien@xen.org>, Oleksandr <olekstysh@gmail.com>,
	"xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org" <xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>,
	Volodymyr Babchuk <Volodymyr_Babchuk@epam.com>,
	Bertrand Marquis <bertrand.marquis@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC v1 3/5] xen/arm: introduce SCMI-SMC mediator driver
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2022 10:25:17 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220120102516.GA4187695@EPUAKYIW015D> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.22.394.2201191755250.19362@ubuntu-linux-20-04-desktop>

On Wed, Jan 19, 2022 at 06:10:46PM -0800, Stefano Stabellini wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Jan 2022, Oleksii Moisieiev wrote:
> > On Thu, Jan 06, 2022 at 04:04:34PM +0000, Julien Grall wrote:
> > > On 06/01/2022 15:43, Oleksii Moisieiev wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Jan 06, 2022 at 02:02:10PM +0000, Julien Grall wrote:
> > > > > On 06/01/2022 13:53, Oleksii Moisieiev wrote:
> > > > > > Hi Julien,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On Mon, Jan 03, 2022 at 01:14:17PM +0000, Julien Grall wrote:
> > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > On 24/12/2021 17:02, Oleksii Moisieiev wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 24, 2021 at 03:42:42PM +0100, Julien Grall wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On 20/12/2021 16:41, Oleksii Moisieiev wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >       2) What are the expected memory attribute for the regions?
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > xen uses iommu_permit_access to pass agent page to the guest. So guest can access the page directly.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > I think you misunderstood my comment. Memory can be mapped with various type
> > > > > > > > > (e.g. Device, Memory) and attribute (cacheable, non-cacheable...). What will
> > > > > > > > > the firmware expect? What will the guest OS usually?
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > The reason I am asking is the attributes have to matched to avoid any
> > > > > > > > > coherency issues. At the moment, if you use XEN_DOMCTL_memory_mapping, Xen
> > > > > > > > > will configure the stage-2 to use Device nGnRnE. As the result, the result
> > > > > > > > > memory access will be Device nGnRnE which is very strict.
> > > > > > > > > :w
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Let me share with you the configuration example:
> > > > > > > > scmi expects memory to be configured in the device-tree:
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > cpu_scp_shm: scp-shmem@0xXXXXXXX {
> > > > > > > > 	compatible = "arm,scmi-shmem";
> > > > > > > > 	reg = <0x0 0xXXXXXX 0x0 0x1000>;
> > > > > > > > };
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > where XXXXXX address I allocate in alloc_magic_pages function.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > The goal of alloc_magic_pages() is to allocate RAM. However, what you want
> > > > > > > is a guest physical address and then map a part of the shared page.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Do you mean that I can't use alloc_magic_pages to allocate shared
> > > > > > memory region for SCMI?
> > > > > Correct. alloc_magic_pages() will allocate a RAM page and then assign to the
> > > > > guest. From your description, this is not what you want because you will
> > > > > call XEN_DOMCTL_memory_mapping (and therefore replace the mapping).
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Ok thanks, I will refactor this part in v2.
> > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I can see two options here:
> > > > > > >     1) Hardcode the SCMI region in the memory map
> > > > > > >     2) Create a new region in the memory map that can be used for reserving
> > > > > > > memory for mapping.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Could you please explain what do you mean under the "new region in the
> > > > > > memory map"?
> > > > > 
> > > > > I mean reserving some guest physical address that could be used for map host
> > > > > physical address (e.g. SCMI region, GIC CPU interface...).
> > > > > 
> > > > > So rather than hardcoding the address, we have something more flexible.
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Ok, I will fix that in v2.
> > > 
> > > Just for avoidance of doubt. I was clarify option 2 and not requesting to
> > > implement. That said, if you want to implement option 2 I would be happy to
> > > review it.
> > > 
> > 
> > I'm thinking about the best way to reserve address for the domain.
> > We have xen_pfn_t shared_info_pfn in struct xc_dom_image which is not
> > used for Arm architecture. It can be set from shared_info_arm callback,
> > defined in xg_dom_arm.c.
> > I can use shared_info to store address of the SCMI and then use map_sci_page to
> > call XEN_DOMCTL_memory_mapping.
> > 
> > This will allow me to reuse existing functionality and do not allocate
> > extra RAM.
> > 
> > What do you think about that?
> 
> I cannot speak for Julien but I think he meant something else (Julien
> please correct me if I am wrong.) Exposing addresses via device tree is
> not a problem.
> 
> Normally we pick a fixed address for guest resources, for instance
> GUEST_GICD_BASE, see xen/include/public/arch-arm.h. We could do that for
> SCMI as well and it is basically approach 1).
> 
> However, it is a bit inflexible and could cause issues with things like
> direct-map (https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://marc.info/?l=xen-devel&m=163997768108997__;!!GF_29dbcQIUBPA!kvNsu9pjqIwZ42N2q6aSQhTT_zA3OCEDkr7DwmAiuldEMwj2UiFReaPI8XlxsG-HOZ6v$ [marc[.]info]). A more
> flexible way would be for the SCMI guest address to be dynamically
> generated somehow.
> 
> I am not sure how Julien envisioned the address to be generated exactly.
> 
> Thanks to Oleksandr's work we have a way to find large regions of "free"
> address space. It is currently used for grant-table mappings. Maybe we
> could use a subset of it for SCMI? It might be best to wait for Julien's
> answer as he might have a better idea.

Thank you for the answer.
I think it will be best to reserve some space and generate address for
SMCI. Hope Julien will advise how it can be done. 



  reply	other threads:[~2022-01-20 10:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 95+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-12-14  9:34 [RFC v1 0/5] Introduce SCI-mediator feature Oleksii Moisieiev
2021-12-14  9:34 ` [RFC v1 1/5] xen/arm: add support for Renesas R-Car Gen3 platform Oleksii Moisieiev
2021-12-15  6:38   ` Oleksandr Andrushchenko
2021-12-15 20:08     ` Oleksii Moisieiev
2021-12-15  9:39   ` Julien Grall
2021-12-17 10:48     ` Oleksii Moisieiev
2021-12-15  9:57   ` Oleksandr Tyshchenko
2021-12-17 10:52     ` Oleksii Moisieiev
2021-12-14  9:34 ` [RFC v1 2/5] xen/arm: add generic SCI mediator framework Oleksii Moisieiev
2021-12-17  2:45   ` Stefano Stabellini
2021-12-17 12:50     ` Oleksii Moisieiev
2021-12-14  9:34 ` [RFC v1 3/5] xen/arm: introduce SCMI-SMC mediator driver Oleksii Moisieiev
2021-12-17 11:35   ` Oleksandr
2021-12-17 13:23     ` Oleksii Moisieiev
2021-12-17 13:37       ` Julien Grall
2021-12-17 13:58         ` Oleksii Moisieiev
2021-12-17 16:38           ` Julien Grall
2021-12-20 15:41             ` Oleksii Moisieiev
2021-12-24 14:42               ` Julien Grall
2021-12-24 17:02                 ` Oleksii Moisieiev
2022-01-03 13:14                   ` Julien Grall
2022-01-06 13:53                     ` Oleksii Moisieiev
2022-01-06 14:02                       ` Julien Grall
2022-01-06 15:43                         ` Oleksii Moisieiev
2022-01-06 16:04                           ` Julien Grall
2022-01-06 16:28                             ` Oleksii Moisieiev
2022-01-19 10:37                             ` Oleksii Moisieiev
2022-01-20  2:10                               ` Stefano Stabellini
2022-01-20 10:25                                 ` Oleksii Moisieiev [this message]
2021-12-18  2:14   ` Stefano Stabellini
2021-12-20 18:12     ` Oleksii Moisieiev
2021-12-21  0:52       ` Stefano Stabellini
2021-12-21 20:03         ` Oleksii Moisieiev
2021-12-21 21:22           ` Stefano Stabellini
2021-12-22 11:04             ` Oleksii Moisieiev
2021-12-23  2:23               ` Stefano Stabellini
2021-12-23 18:45                 ` Volodymyr Babchuk
2021-12-23 19:06                 ` Oleksii Moisieiev
2021-12-24  0:16                   ` Stefano Stabellini
2021-12-24 13:29                     ` Julien Grall
2021-12-24 13:59                       ` Oleksii Moisieiev
2021-12-24 14:28                         ` Julien Grall
2021-12-24 16:49                           ` Oleksii Moisieiev
2022-01-03 14:23                             ` Julien Grall
2022-01-06 15:19                               ` Oleksii Moisieiev
2021-12-24 14:07                     ` Oleksii Moisieiev
2022-01-19 12:04                 ` Oleksii Moisieiev
2022-01-20  1:28                   ` Stefano Stabellini
2022-01-20 10:21                     ` Oleksii Moisieiev
2022-01-20 22:29                       ` Stefano Stabellini
2022-01-21 15:07                         ` Oleksii Moisieiev
2022-01-21 20:49                           ` Stefano Stabellini
2022-01-24 18:22                             ` Oleksii Moisieiev
2022-01-24 19:06                               ` Stefano Stabellini
2022-01-24 19:26                                 ` Julien Grall
2022-01-24 22:14                                   ` Stefano Stabellini
2022-01-25 14:35                                     ` Oleksii Moisieiev
2022-01-25 21:19                                       ` Stefano Stabellini
2022-01-27 18:11                                         ` Oleksii Moisieiev
2022-01-27 21:18                                           ` Stefano Stabellini
2021-12-14  9:34 ` [RFC v1 4/5] tools/arm: add "scmi_smc" option to xl.cfg Oleksii Moisieiev
2021-12-15 21:51   ` Oleksandr
2021-12-17 11:00     ` Oleksii Moisieiev
2021-12-21  0:54   ` Stefano Stabellini
2021-12-22 10:24     ` Oleksii Moisieiev
2021-12-23  2:23       ` Stefano Stabellini
2021-12-23 19:13         ` Oleksii Moisieiev
2021-12-21 13:27   ` Anthony PERARD
2021-12-22 12:20     ` Oleksii Moisieiev
2021-12-14  9:34 ` [RFC v1 5/5] xen/arm: add SCI mediator support for DomUs Oleksii Moisieiev
2021-12-14  9:41   ` Jan Beulich
2021-12-16 17:36     ` Oleksii Moisieiev
2021-12-17  7:12       ` Jan Beulich
2021-12-17  7:16         ` Jan Beulich
2021-12-17 13:40           ` Oleksii Moisieiev
2021-12-16  0:04   ` Oleksandr
2021-12-17 12:15     ` Oleksii Moisieiev
2021-12-21 14:45       ` Anthony PERARD
2021-12-21 21:39         ` Stefano Stabellini
2021-12-22  9:24           ` Julien Grall
2021-12-22 11:17             ` Volodymyr Babchuk
2021-12-22 11:30               ` Julien Grall
2021-12-22 12:34                 ` Volodymyr Babchuk
2021-12-22 13:49                   ` Julien Grall
2021-12-23  2:23                     ` Stefano Stabellini
2021-12-23 19:06                       ` Stefano Stabellini
2021-12-24 13:30                         ` Julien Grall
2022-01-19  9:40                           ` Oleksii Moisieiev
2022-01-20  1:53                             ` Stefano Stabellini
2022-01-20 10:27                               ` Oleksii Moisieiev
2021-12-23 19:11                       ` Oleksii Moisieiev
2021-12-21  1:37   ` Stefano Stabellini
2021-12-22 13:41     ` Oleksii Moisieiev
2021-12-16  0:33 ` [RFC v1 0/5] Introduce SCI-mediator feature Oleksandr
2021-12-17 12:24   ` Oleksii Moisieiev

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