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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
Cc: Matthew Rosato <mjrosato@linux.ibm.com>,
	linux-s390@vger.kernel.org, cohuck@redhat.com,
	schnelle@linux.ibm.com, farman@linux.ibm.com,
	pmorel@linux.ibm.com, borntraeger@linux.ibm.com,
	hca@linux.ibm.com, gor@linux.ibm.com,
	gerald.schaefer@linux.ibm.com, agordeev@linux.ibm.com,
	frankja@linux.ibm.com, david@redhat.com, imbrenda@linux.ibm.com,
	vneethv@linux.ibm.com, oberpar@linux.ibm.com,
	freude@linux.ibm.com, thuth@redhat.com, pasic@linux.ibm.com,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 24/30] vfio-pci/zdev: wire up group notifier
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2022 15:51:17 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220208195117.GI4160@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220208122624.43ad52ef.alex.williamson@redhat.com>

On Tue, Feb 08, 2022 at 12:26:24PM -0700, Alex Williamson wrote:

> > Personally, I think it is wrong layering for VFIO to be aware of KVM
> > like this. This marks the first time that VFIO core code itself is
> > being made aware of the KVM linkage.
> 
> I agree, but I've resigned that I've lost that battle.  Both mdev vGPU
> vendors make specific assumptions about running on a VM. 

The vGPU's are not as egregious though, are they?

> > Or, at the very least, everything needs to be described in some way
> > that makes it clear what is happening to userspace, without kvm,
> > through these ioctls.
> 
> As I understand the discussion here:
> 
> https://lore.kernel.org/all/20220204211536.321475-15-mjrosato@linux.ibm.com/
> 
> The assumption is that there is no non-KVM userspace currently.  This
> seems like a regression to me.

Indeed, I definitely don't like it either. This is not VFIO if is
just driving KVM.

I would prefer they add a function to get the 'struct device *' from a
VFIO device fd and drive more of this from kvm, as appropriate.

> > > this is meant to extend vfio-pci proper for the whole arch.  Is there a
> > > compromise in using #ifdefs in vfio_pci_ops to call into zpci specific
> > > code that implements these arch specific hooks and the core for
> > > everything else?  SPAPR code could probably converted similarly, it
> > > exists here for legacy reasons. [Cc Jason]  
> > 
> > I'm not sure I get what you are suggesting? Where would these ifdefs
> > be?
> 
> Essentially just:
> 
> static const struct vfio_device_ops vfio_pci_ops = {
>         .name           = "vfio-pci",
> #ifdef CONFIG_S390
>         .open_device    = vfio_zpci_open_device,
>         .close_device   = vfio_zpci_close_device,
>         .ioctl          = vfio_zpci_ioctl,
> #else
>         .open_device    = vfio_pci_open_device,
>         .close_device   = vfio_pci_core_close_device,
>         .ioctl          = vfio_pci_core_ioctl,
> #endif
>         .read           = vfio_pci_core_read,
>         .write          = vfio_pci_core_write,
>         .mmap           = vfio_pci_core_mmap,
>         .request        = vfio_pci_core_request,
>         .match          = vfio_pci_core_match,
> };
> 
> It would at least provide more validation/exercise of the core/vendor
> split.  Thanks,

This would have to be in every pci driver - this is not just code the
universal vfio-pci has to enable, but every migration driver/etc too.

And we will need it again in vfio-cxl for s390 in 10 years too..

So, I think this approach is the right one, asided from the
philosophical question of being so tightly linking s390 vfio to KVM.

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2022-02-08 22:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-02-04 21:15 [PATCH v3 00/30] KVM: s390: enable zPCI for interpretive execution Matthew Rosato
2022-02-04 21:15 ` [PATCH v3 01/30] s390/sclp: detect the zPCI load/store interpretation facility Matthew Rosato
2022-02-04 21:15 ` [PATCH v3 02/30] s390/sclp: detect the AISII facility Matthew Rosato
2022-02-04 21:15 ` [PATCH v3 03/30] s390/sclp: detect the AENI facility Matthew Rosato
2022-02-04 21:15 ` [PATCH v3 04/30] s390/sclp: detect the AISI facility Matthew Rosato
2022-02-04 21:15 ` [PATCH v3 05/30] s390/airq: pass more TPI info to airq handlers Matthew Rosato
2022-02-07  8:28   ` Cornelia Huck
2022-02-04 21:15 ` [PATCH v3 06/30] s390/airq: allow for airq structure that uses an input vector Matthew Rosato
2022-02-07  8:29   ` Cornelia Huck
2022-02-07  8:42   ` Claudio Imbrenda
2022-02-04 21:15 ` [PATCH v3 07/30] s390/pci: externalize the SIC operation controls and routine Matthew Rosato
2022-02-04 21:15 ` [PATCH v3 08/30] s390/pci: stash associated GISA designation Matthew Rosato
2022-02-04 21:15 ` [PATCH v3 09/30] s390/pci: export some routines related to RPCIT processing Matthew Rosato
2022-02-04 21:15 ` [PATCH v3 10/30] s390/pci: stash dtsm and maxstbl Matthew Rosato
2022-02-04 21:15 ` [PATCH v3 11/30] s390/pci: add helper function to find device by handle Matthew Rosato
2022-02-04 21:15 ` [PATCH v3 12/30] s390/pci: get SHM information from list pci Matthew Rosato
2022-02-07 10:08   ` Pierre Morel
2022-02-04 21:15 ` [PATCH v3 13/30] s390/pci: return status from zpci_refresh_trans Matthew Rosato
2022-02-04 21:15 ` [PATCH v3 14/30] vfio/pci: re-introduce CONFIG_VFIO_PCI_ZDEV Matthew Rosato
2022-02-07  8:35   ` Cornelia Huck
2022-02-07 15:43     ` Matthew Rosato
2022-02-07 17:59       ` Cornelia Huck
2022-02-07 20:09         ` Matthew Rosato
2022-02-10 10:07           ` Cornelia Huck
2022-02-04 21:15 ` [PATCH v3 15/30] KVM: s390: pci: add basic kvm_zdev structure Matthew Rosato
2022-02-04 21:15 ` [PATCH v3 16/30] KVM: s390: pci: do initial setup for AEN interpretation Matthew Rosato
2022-02-04 21:15 ` [PATCH v3 17/30] KVM: s390: pci: enable host forwarding of Adapter Event Notifications Matthew Rosato
2022-02-05 13:57   ` kernel test robot
2022-02-14 12:59   ` Pierre Morel
2022-02-14 20:35     ` Matthew Rosato
2022-02-04 21:15 ` [PATCH v3 18/30] KVM: s390: mechanism to enable guest zPCI Interpretation Matthew Rosato
2022-02-14 13:06   ` Pierre Morel
2022-02-04 21:15 ` [PATCH v3 19/30] KVM: s390: pci: provide routines for enabling/disabling interpretation Matthew Rosato
2022-02-14 13:22   ` Pierre Morel
2022-02-04 21:15 ` [PATCH v3 20/30] KVM: s390: pci: provide routines for enabling/disabling interrupt forwarding Matthew Rosato
2022-02-04 21:15 ` [PATCH v3 21/30] KVM: s390: pci: provide routines for enabling/disabling IOAT assist Matthew Rosato
2022-02-04 21:15 ` [PATCH v3 22/30] KVM: s390: pci: handle refresh of PCI translations Matthew Rosato
2022-02-04 21:15 ` [PATCH v3 23/30] KVM: s390: intercept the rpcit instruction Matthew Rosato
2022-02-04 21:15 ` [PATCH v3 24/30] vfio-pci/zdev: wire up group notifier Matthew Rosato
2022-02-08 17:43   ` Alex Williamson
2022-02-08 18:51     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-02-08 19:26       ` Alex Williamson
2022-02-08 19:51         ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2022-02-08 20:33         ` Matthew Rosato
2022-02-08 20:40           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-02-08 21:37             ` Matthew Rosato
2022-02-10 11:15             ` Niklas Schnelle
2022-02-10 13:01               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-02-10 14:06                 ` Niklas Schnelle
2022-02-10 15:23                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-02-10 18:59                     ` Matthew Rosato
2022-02-10 23:45                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-02-04 21:15 ` [PATCH v3 25/30] vfio-pci/zdev: wire up zPCI interpretive execution support Matthew Rosato
2022-02-04 21:15 ` [PATCH v3 26/30] vfio-pci/zdev: wire up zPCI adapter interrupt forwarding support Matthew Rosato
2022-02-07 16:38   ` Pierre Morel
2022-02-04 21:15 ` [PATCH v3 27/30] vfio-pci/zdev: wire up zPCI IOAT assist support Matthew Rosato
2022-02-04 21:15 ` [PATCH v3 28/30] vfio-pci/zdev: add DTSM to clp group capability Matthew Rosato
2022-02-04 21:15 ` [PATCH v3 29/30] KVM: s390: introduce CPU feature for zPCI Interpretation Matthew Rosato
2022-02-07 16:36   ` Pierre Morel
2022-02-04 21:15 ` [PATCH v3 30/30] MAINTAINERS: additional files related kvm s390 pci passthrough Matthew Rosato
2022-02-07 13:04   ` Christian Borntraeger
2022-02-07 15:44     ` Matthew Rosato
2022-02-04 21:33 ` [PATCH v3 00/30] KVM: s390: enable zPCI for interpretive execution Matthew Rosato

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