From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F7ACC433EF for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2022 07:36:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S230312AbiCNHh5 (ORCPT ); Mon, 14 Mar 2022 03:37:57 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:57718 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S230334AbiCNHh4 (ORCPT ); Mon, 14 Mar 2022 03:37:56 -0400 Received: from verein.lst.de (verein.lst.de [213.95.11.211]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7E2B540E56 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2022 00:36:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by verein.lst.de (Postfix, from userid 2407) id 5F11D68AFE; Mon, 14 Mar 2022 08:36:44 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2022 08:36:44 +0100 From: Christoph Hellwig To: Adam Manzanares Cc: Christoph Hellwig , Pankaj Raghav , Luis Chamberlain , Javier =?iso-8859-1?Q?Gonz=E1lez?= , kanchan Joshi , Jens Axboe , Keith Busch , Sagi Grimberg , Damien Le Moal , Matias =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rling?= , "jiangbo.365@bytedance.com" , Pankaj Raghav , Kanchan Joshi , "linux-block@vger.kernel.org" , "linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org" Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/6] power_of_2 emulation support for NVMe ZNS devices Message-ID: <20220314073644.GB4204@lst.de> References: <20220308165349.231320-1-p.raghav@samsung.com> <20220310094725.GA28499@lst.de> <20220310173835.GB89599@bgt-140510-bm01> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20220310173835.GB89599@bgt-140510-bm01> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-block@vger.kernel.org On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 05:38:35PM +0000, Adam Manzanares wrote: > > Do these drives even support Zone Append? > > Should it matter if the drives support append? SMR drives do not support append > and they are considered zone block devices. Append seems to be an optimization > for users that want higher concurrency per zone. One can also build concurrency > by leveraging multiple zones simultaneously as well. Not supporting it natively for SMR is a major pain. Due to hard drives being relatively slow the emulation is somewhat workable, but on SSDs the serialization would completely kill performance.