From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
To: Kanchan Joshi <joshiiitr@gmail.com>
Cc: "Christoph Hellwig" <hch@lst.de>,
"Kanchan Joshi" <joshi.k@samsung.com>,
"Jens Axboe" <axboe@kernel.dk>, "Keith Busch" <kbusch@kernel.org>,
"Pavel Begunkov" <asml.silence@gmail.com>,
io-uring@vger.kernel.org, linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org,
linux-block@vger.kernel.org, sbates@raithlin.com,
logang@deltatee.com, "Pankaj Raghav" <pankydev8@gmail.com>,
"Javier González" <javier@javigon.com>,
"Luis Chamberlain" <mcgrof@kernel.org>,
"Adam Manzanares" <a.manzanares@samsung.com>,
"Anuj Gupta" <anuj20.g@samsung.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 17/17] nvme: enable non-inline passthru commands
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2022 07:32:18 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220324063218.GC12660@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+1E3rLGwHFbdbSTJBfWrw6RLErwcT2zPxGmmWbcLUj2y=16Qg@mail.gmail.com>
On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 10:40:27PM +0530, Kanchan Joshi wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 11, 2022 at 11:57 AM Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de> wrote:
> > > And that's because this ioctl requires additional "__u64 result;" to
> > > be updated within "struct nvme_passthru_cmd64".
> > > To update that during completion, we need, at the least, the result
> > > field to be a pointer "__u64 result_ptr" inside the struct
> > > nvme_passthru_cmd64.
> > > Do you see that is possible without adding a new passthru ioctl in nvme?
> >
> > We don't need a new passthrough ioctl in nvme.
> Right. Maybe it is easier for applications if they get to use the same
> ioctl opcode/structure that they know well already.
I disagree. Reusing the same opcode and/or structure for something
fundamentally different creates major confusion. Don't do it.
> >From all that we discussed, maybe the path forward could be this:
> - inline-cmd/big-sqe is useful if paired with big-cqe. Drop big-sqe
> for now if we cannot go the big-cqe route.
> - use only indirect-cmd as this requires nothing special, just regular
> sqe and cqe. We can support all passthru commands with a lot less
> code. No new ioctl in nvme, so same semantics. For common commands
> (i.e. read/write) we can still avoid updating the result (put_user
> cost will go).
>
> Please suggest if we should approach this any differently in v2.
Personally I think larger SQEs and CQEs are the only sensible interface
here. Everything else just fails like a horrible hack I would not want
to support in NVMe.
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2022-03-08 15:20 ` [PATCH 00/17] io_uring passthru over nvme Kanchan Joshi
2022-03-08 15:20 ` [PATCH 01/17] io_uring: add support for 128-byte SQEs Kanchan Joshi
2022-03-08 15:20 ` [PATCH 02/17] fs: add file_operations->async_cmd() Kanchan Joshi
2022-03-08 15:20 ` [PATCH 03/17] io_uring: add infra and support for IORING_OP_URING_CMD Kanchan Joshi
2022-03-11 1:51 ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-03-11 2:43 ` Jens Axboe
2022-03-11 17:11 ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-03-11 18:47 ` Paul Moore
2022-03-11 18:47 ` Paul Moore
2022-03-11 20:57 ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-03-11 20:57 ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-03-11 21:03 ` Paul Moore
2022-03-11 21:03 ` Paul Moore
2022-03-14 16:25 ` Casey Schaufler
2022-03-14 16:32 ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-03-14 18:05 ` Casey Schaufler
2022-03-14 19:40 ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-03-08 15:20 ` [PATCH 04/17] nvme: modify nvme_alloc_request to take an additional parameter Kanchan Joshi
2022-03-11 6:38 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-03-08 15:20 ` [PATCH 05/17] nvme: wire-up support for async-passthru on char-device Kanchan Joshi
2022-03-10 0:02 ` Clay Mayers
2022-03-10 8:32 ` Kanchan Joshi
2022-03-11 7:01 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-03-14 16:23 ` Kanchan Joshi
2022-03-15 8:54 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-03-16 7:27 ` Kanchan Joshi
2022-03-24 6:22 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-03-24 17:45 ` Kanchan Joshi
2022-03-11 17:56 ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-03-11 18:53 ` Paul Moore
2022-03-11 21:02 ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-03-13 21:53 ` Sagi Grimberg
2022-03-14 17:54 ` Kanchan Joshi
2022-03-15 9:02 ` Sagi Grimberg
2022-03-16 9:21 ` Kanchan Joshi
2022-03-16 10:56 ` Sagi Grimberg
2022-03-16 11:51 ` Kanchan Joshi
2022-03-16 13:52 ` Sagi Grimberg
2022-03-16 14:35 ` Jens Axboe
2022-03-16 14:50 ` Sagi Grimberg
2022-03-24 6:20 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-03-24 10:42 ` Sagi Grimberg
2022-03-22 15:18 ` Clay Mayers
2022-03-22 16:57 ` Kanchan Joshi
2022-03-08 15:20 ` [PATCH 06/17] io_uring: prep for fixed-buffer enabled uring-cmd Kanchan Joshi
2022-03-08 15:20 ` [PATCH 07/17] io_uring: add support for uring_cmd with fixed-buffer Kanchan Joshi
2022-03-08 15:20 ` [PATCH 08/17] nvme: enable passthrough " Kanchan Joshi
2022-03-10 8:32 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-03-11 6:43 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-03-14 13:06 ` Kanchan Joshi
2022-03-15 8:55 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-03-14 12:18 ` Ming Lei
2022-03-14 13:09 ` Kanchan Joshi
2022-03-08 15:20 ` [PATCH 09/17] io_uring: plug for async bypass Kanchan Joshi
2022-03-10 8:33 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-03-14 14:33 ` Ming Lei
2022-03-15 8:56 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-03-11 17:15 ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-03-08 15:20 ` [PATCH 10/17] block: wire-up support for plugging Kanchan Joshi
2022-03-10 8:34 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-03-10 12:40 ` Kanchan Joshi
2022-03-14 14:40 ` Ming Lei
2022-03-21 7:02 ` Kanchan Joshi
2022-03-23 1:27 ` Ming Lei
2022-03-23 1:41 ` Jens Axboe
2022-03-23 1:58 ` Jens Axboe
2022-03-23 2:10 ` Ming Lei
2022-03-23 2:17 ` Jens Axboe
2022-03-08 15:20 ` [PATCH 11/17] block: factor out helper for bio allocation from cache Kanchan Joshi
2022-03-10 8:35 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-03-10 12:25 ` Kanchan Joshi
2022-03-24 6:30 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-03-24 17:45 ` Kanchan Joshi
2022-03-25 5:38 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-03-08 15:21 ` [PATCH 12/17] nvme: enable bio-cache for fixed-buffer passthru Kanchan Joshi
2022-03-11 6:48 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-03-14 18:18 ` Kanchan Joshi
2022-03-15 8:57 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-03-08 15:21 ` [PATCH 13/17] nvme: allow user passthrough commands to poll Kanchan Joshi
2022-03-08 17:08 ` Keith Busch
2022-03-09 7:03 ` Kanchan Joshi
2022-03-11 6:49 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-03-08 15:21 ` [PATCH 14/17] io_uring: add polling support for uring-cmd Kanchan Joshi
2022-03-11 6:50 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-03-14 10:16 ` Kanchan Joshi
2022-03-15 8:57 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-03-16 5:09 ` Kanchan Joshi
2022-03-24 6:30 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-03-08 15:21 ` [PATCH 15/17] nvme: wire-up polling for uring-passthru Kanchan Joshi
2022-03-08 15:21 ` [PATCH 16/17] io_uring: add support for non-inline uring-cmd Kanchan Joshi
2022-03-08 15:21 ` [PATCH 17/17] nvme: enable non-inline passthru commands Kanchan Joshi
2022-03-10 8:36 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-03-10 11:50 ` Kanchan Joshi
2022-03-10 14:19 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-03-10 18:43 ` Kanchan Joshi
2022-03-11 6:27 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-03-22 17:10 ` Kanchan Joshi
2022-03-24 6:32 ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2022-03-25 13:39 ` Kanchan Joshi
2022-03-28 4:44 ` Kanchan Joshi
2022-03-30 12:59 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-03-30 13:02 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-03-30 13:14 ` Kanchan Joshi
2022-04-01 1:25 ` Jens Axboe
2022-04-01 2:33 ` Kanchan Joshi
2022-04-01 2:44 ` Jens Axboe
2022-04-01 3:05 ` Jens Axboe
2022-04-01 6:32 ` Kanchan Joshi
2022-04-19 17:31 ` Kanchan Joshi
2022-04-19 18:19 ` Jens Axboe
2022-04-20 15:14 ` Kanchan Joshi
2022-04-20 15:28 ` Kanchan Joshi
2022-04-01 1:23 ` Jens Axboe
2022-04-01 1:22 ` Jens Axboe
2022-04-01 6:29 ` Kanchan Joshi
2022-03-24 21:09 ` Clay Mayers
2022-03-24 23:36 ` Jens Axboe
2022-03-10 8:29 ` [PATCH 00/17] io_uring passthru over nvme Christoph Hellwig
2022-03-10 10:05 ` Kanchan Joshi
2022-03-11 16:43 ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-03-11 23:35 ` Adam Manzanares
2022-03-12 2:27 ` Adam Manzanares
2022-03-13 5:07 ` Kanchan Joshi
2022-03-14 20:30 ` Adam Manzanares
2022-03-13 5:10 ` Kanchan Joshi
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