[virtio-dev] Re: queue_reset register polarity to improve

["Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>]

On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 10:06:04AM +0000, Parav Pandit wrote:
> 
> > From: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2022 2:47 AM
> > 
> > On Sun, Apr 24, 2022 at 12:49:19AM +0000, Parav Pandit wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > A recently defined queue_reset register has a little weird definition that
> > we should improve.
> > > When driver initiate queue reset, it writes queue_reset = 1.
> > > When device is busy resetting the queue, on this driver request, it is
> > expected to return queue_reset=0.
> > > Once queue reset is completed it is expected to return queue_reset = 1.
> > > (Polarity changed twice to same value as what was driver set). See more
> > below.
> > >
> > > So state wise,
> > > # q_enable, q_reset represents :
> > > a) 0,0 -> device init time value
> > > b) 1,0 -> vq is enabled and working
> > > c) 1,1 -> vq is enabled, driver initiated reset
> > > d) 1,0 -> vq is enabled, but device is busy doing the reset
> > > (conflicting definition with above #b )
> > it is not great but don't see a conflict here
> > 
> > > e) 0,1 -> vq reset is complete in the device and VQ is now disabled
> > > (again conflict with #a above )
> > this one is ugly in that state is really mostly same as (1) but the flag values are
> > different
> Right.
> 
> > 
> > 
> > > f) 1,0 -> vq is enabled and working again
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > It can actually be any value, the spec just says
> > 
> > If VIRTIO_F_RING_RESET has been negotiated, after the driver writes 1 to
> > \field{QueueReset} to reset the queue, it MUST verify that the queue has
> > been reset by reading back \field{QueueReset} and ensuring that it is 1.
> > 
> > So can be 2 or whatever, so one can distinguish between the two states.
> > 
> It is sub-optimal for device to burn more than one bit to implement/return value 2, which can be communicated using single bit.
> So, 0 is preferred as this the value at default reset time.
> 
> > Spec really should clarify what to do if it is not 1 (i.e. read it again until it is 1) .
> > 
> > 
> > > Instead, I think we should have below better, consistent definition, no
> > matter how queue reset occurs (init time or later).
> > >
> > > q_enable, q_reset
> > > A) 0, 0 -> default, device init time
> > > B) 1, 0 -> driver has enabled vq
> > > C) 1, 1 -> driver started q reset
> > > D) 1, 1 -> q_reset stays 1 until device is busy resetting vq
> > > (communicating that its working on resetting, consistent with #C)
> > > E) 0, 0 -> q_reset by device is completed, q got disabled (now matches
> > > the state same as device init time #A)
> > >
> > > Parav
> > 
> > 
> > Well it's been merged since November. 
> Merged on dec-21 to be more precise. :)
> 
> > Probably too late unless you can
> > convince the TC that the current feature should be abandoned and the
> > feature completely redesigned. Above does not look like a deal breaker.
> > 
> I don't see a need for abandoning and redesigning this feature.
> Not sure if any driver+device already produced and consumed which cannot be fixed.
> The spec is not released yet, we should be able to fix it.
> 
> > If we are to re-design it, I would maybe instead rework things so
> > queue_enable can be written to, to stop vq without a reset. Will need careful
> > work for transports other than PCI since those already allow writing into e.g.
> > QueueReady.
> > 
> Reusing queue_enable to disable the queue require driver writing zero, device returning 1 till its enabled, and device returning 0 when done.
> This can be supported using the new VIRTIO_F_RING_RESET flag.
> This way we have single bit to control enablement/disablement the VQ regardless of DRIVER_OK state.

I'd say it would be more like VIRTIO_F_RING_DISABLE.

> > If possible, please open a github issue so we can track this for the release.
> Done at [1]
> 
> [1] https://github.com/oasis-tcs/virtio-spec/issues/139
> Do we continue to discuss this over email or in github now?

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