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From: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@kernel.org>
To: Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>
Cc: Song Liu <song@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, live-patching@vger.kernel.org,
	mingo@redhat.com, peterz@infradead.org,
	vincent.guittot@linaro.org, jpoimboe@redhat.com,
	joe.lawrence@redhat.com, kernel-team@fb.com
Subject: Re: [RFC] sched,livepatch: call stop_one_cpu in klp_check_and_switch_task
Date: Mon, 9 May 2022 12:17:45 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220509191745.yk2txsa4cv3ypf6k@treble> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <68f91fb233d5bf82e29cc5c6960a62863b297db3.camel@surriel.com>

On Mon, May 09, 2022 at 03:10:16PM -0400, Rik van Riel wrote:
> On Mon, 2022-05-09 at 11:00 -0700, Josh Poimboeuf wrote:
> > On Mon, May 09, 2022 at 11:52:27AM -0400, Rik van Riel wrote:
> > > Does this look like an approach that could work?
> > > 
> > > @@ -315,6 +321,9 @@ static bool klp_try_switch_task(struct
> > > task_struct *task)
> > >         case -EBUSY:    /* klp_check_and_switch_task() */
> > >                 pr_debug("%s: %s:%d is running\n",
> > >                          __func__, task->comm, task->pid);
> > > +               /* Preempt the task from the second KLP switch
> > > attempt. */
> > > +               if (klp_signals_cnt)
> > > +                       stop_one_cpu(task_cpu(task),
> > > kpatch_dummy_fn, NULL);
> > 
> > I must be missing something, how is briefly preempting a kthread
> > supposed to actually transition it?  Won't it likely go back to
> > running
> > on the CPU before the next periodic klp_transition_work_fn() check?
> > 
> That's the kind of feedback I was hoping for ;)
> 
> I looked around the code a little bit, and it seems
> that only the idle tasks can transition to another KLP
> while they are running?

Yes.

> That makes me wonder how the kworker thread that runs
> the klp switching code transitions itself...

See klp_check_and_switch_task(), in addition to checking blocked tasks,
it also checks the current task.

> Should kernel threads that can use a lot of CPU have
> something in their outer loop to transition KLPs,
> just like the idle task does?

Maybe - I suppose this is the first time we've had an issue with
CPU-bound kthreads.  I didn't know that was a thing ;-)

-- 
Josh

  reply	other threads:[~2022-05-09 19:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-05-07 17:46 [RFC] sched,livepatch: call klp_try_switch_task in __cond_resched Song Liu
2022-05-07 18:26 ` Rik van Riel
2022-05-07 19:04   ` Song Liu
2022-05-07 19:18     ` Rik van Riel
2022-05-08 20:41       ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-05-09  1:07         ` Rik van Riel
2022-05-09  7:04 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-05-09  8:06   ` Song Liu
2022-05-09  9:38     ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-05-09 14:13       ` Rik van Riel
2022-05-09 15:22         ` Petr Mladek
2022-05-09 15:07 ` Petr Mladek
2022-05-09 16:22   ` Song Liu
2022-05-10  7:56     ` Petr Mladek
2022-05-10 13:33       ` Rik van Riel
2022-05-10 15:44         ` Petr Mladek
2022-05-10 16:07           ` Rik van Riel
2022-05-10 16:52             ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-05-10 18:07               ` Rik van Riel
2022-05-10 18:42                 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-05-10 19:45                   ` Song Liu
2022-05-10 23:04                     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-05-10 23:57                       ` Song Liu
2022-05-11  0:33                         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-05-11  9:24                           ` Petr Mladek
2022-05-11 16:33                             ` Song Liu
2022-05-12  4:07                               ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-05-13 12:33                               ` Petr Mladek
2022-05-13 13:34                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-05-11  0:35                         ` Rik van Riel
2022-05-11  0:37                           ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-05-11  0:46                             ` Rik van Riel
2022-05-11  1:12                               ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-05-11 18:09                                 ` Rik van Riel
2022-05-12  3:59                                   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-05-09 15:52 ` [RFC] sched,livepatch: call stop_one_cpu in klp_check_and_switch_task Rik van Riel
2022-05-09 16:28   ` Song Liu
2022-05-09 18:00   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-05-09 19:10     ` Rik van Riel
2022-05-09 19:17       ` Josh Poimboeuf [this message]
2022-05-09 19:49         ` Rik van Riel
2022-05-09 20:09           ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-05-10  0:32             ` Song Liu
2022-05-10  9:35               ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-05-10  1:48             ` Rik van Riel

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