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From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
To: Jiri Pirko <jiri@nvidia.com>
Cc: Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>, Dima Chumak <dchumak@nvidia.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, Simon Horman <horms@verge.net.au>,
	Michal Wilczynski <michal.wilczynski@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 0/5] devlink rate police limiter
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2022 09:07:13 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220714090713.3f2353f4@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Ys+hqVopaCODxihw@nanopsycho>

On Thu, 14 Jul 2022 06:55:05 +0200 Jiri Pirko wrote:
> Wed, Jul 13, 2022 at 07:52:55PM CEST, kuba@kernel.org wrote:
> >On Wed, 13 Jul 2022 07:04:04 +0200 Jiri Pirko wrote:  
> >> Even if there is no netdevice to hook it to, because it does not exist?
> >> I have to be missing something, sorry :/  
> >
> >What I'm saying is that we can treat the devlink rate API as a "lower
> >layer interface". A layer under the netdevs. That seems sensible and
> >removes the API duplication which otherwise annoys me.
> >
> >We want drivers to only have to implement one API.
> >
> >So when user calls the legacy NDO API it should check if the device has
> >devlink rate support, first, and try to translate the legacy request
> >into devlink rate.
> >
> >Same for TC police as installed by the OvS offload feature that Simon
> >knows far more about than I do. IIRC we use a combination of matchall
> >and police to do shaping.
> >
> >That way drivers don't have to implement all three APIs, only devlink
> >rate (four APIs if we count TC qdisc but I think only NFP uses that
> >one and it has RED etc so that's too much).
> >
> >Does this help or am I still not making sense?  
> 
> I think I got it now. But in our case, there is no change for the user,
> as the netdev does not exist. So user still uses devlink rate uapi as
> proposed by this patchset. Only internal kernel changes requested.
> Correct?

Right. If the user wants to use devlink-rate directly they can.
For legacy users the kernel will translate to devlink-rate.
The point is for drivers to only have to implement devlink-rate.

      reply	other threads:[~2022-07-14 16:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-20 15:26 [PATCH net-next 0/5] devlink rate police limiter Dima Chumak
2022-06-20 15:26 ` [PATCH net-next 1/5] devlink: Introduce limit_type attr for rate objects Dima Chumak
2022-06-20 15:26 ` [PATCH net-next 2/5] devlink: Introduce police rate limit type Dima Chumak
2022-06-20 15:26 ` [PATCH net-next 3/5] netdevsim: Support devlink rate limit_type police Dima Chumak
2022-06-20 15:26 ` [PATCH net-next 4/5] selftest: netdevsim: Add devlink rate police sub-test Dima Chumak
2022-06-20 15:26 ` [PATCH net-next 5/5] Documentation: devlink rate objects limit_type Dima Chumak
2022-06-20 15:35 ` [PATCH iproute2-next 1/5] uapi: devlink.h DEVLINK_ATTR_RATE_LIMIT_TYPE Dima Chumak
2022-06-20 15:35 ` [PATCH iproute2-next 2/5] devlink: Add port rate limit_type support Dima Chumak
2022-06-20 15:35 ` [PATCH iproute2-next 3/5] utils: Add get_size64() Dima Chumak
2022-06-20 15:35 ` [PATCH iproute2-next 4/5] uapi: devlink.h DEVLINK_RATE_LIMIT_TYPE_POLICE Dima Chumak
2022-06-20 15:35 ` [PATCH iproute2-next 5/5] devlink: Introduce port rate limit_type police Dima Chumak
2022-06-20 20:04 ` [PATCH net-next 0/5] devlink rate police limiter Jakub Kicinski
2022-06-30 15:27   ` Dima Chumak
2022-06-30 18:13     ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-07-07 11:20       ` Jiri Pirko
2022-07-07 20:16         ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-07-08  7:27           ` Jiri Pirko
2022-07-08 18:05             ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-07-09  5:14               ` Jiri Pirko
2022-07-11 17:29                 ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-07-12  6:03                   ` Jiri Pirko
2022-07-13  0:13                     ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-07-13  5:04                       ` Jiri Pirko
2022-07-13 17:52                         ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-07-14  4:55                           ` Jiri Pirko
2022-07-14 16:07                             ` Jakub Kicinski [this message]

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