From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21AA8C43334 for ; Sat, 16 Jul 2022 13:13:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S231217AbiGPNNx (ORCPT ); Sat, 16 Jul 2022 09:13:53 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:60786 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S230508AbiGPNNw (ORCPT ); Sat, 16 Jul 2022 09:13:52 -0400 Received: from mail-ej1-x632.google.com (mail-ej1-x632.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::632]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A510A7659; Sat, 16 Jul 2022 06:13:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ej1-x632.google.com with SMTP id b11so13339004eju.10; Sat, 16 Jul 2022 06:13:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-disposition:in-reply-to; bh=vypCuEq/rCX9HvlkITtGSPUFoDxSLRPZn98T+qV3Xf4=; b=WjA5VfCC/rZXpbOeSX9aHYmBGP49eby3ugoPBRHLpX5UQxvaT/LsKYkLfAIFJtNSGd ca1rd41z4niKpWi5tihqGcMdIdgzf+++E86A0mPqYKnHofAEF+Jbo2LcVRyh5Qq4a7HV +POutI91tGrQq1pj6ZraycCRcfSRfXZ+/h9Dg6SjBqtdgD7/09e3VSyN8KdPzF+gTmFQ mwZ8nFqh2whpQExmhq+sIyGjsw8m/1lz3zX1rH89jSw7++GBy7EZBVdVesFaxfqMwf+f sGWjTuslkljUN/35i8ZAkIOev5RTwINOlmLBOpKCG+YG8AVNRVkl2Hu0jGZmW/EyHMvB fMIQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:content-disposition:in-reply-to; bh=vypCuEq/rCX9HvlkITtGSPUFoDxSLRPZn98T+qV3Xf4=; b=zDI5ZUcWCRBvaQwoMPqyOHDgdPuY7o2/ldzXFFmeU0yZp1iJpgxCTVo+uJEK/ySKuH rGm6+++S3iM1IMIOtjbGyG8uJ26AqCr8tESdG4789fFXxCMydwvRnX13r3BYptOz7qy0 4E7Y3QIqQIlpg7pcu8Zt603BNDH45A/Wg0I5H3M0DVKNIO5lyMRAFlLUFJrgjaTTDqs7 qLP7AqGQ4RerX1EPpETeiHK272YQDwSrCsNCMaUT5jJppshchb/R3ScffRHDRrnxNt+G 2V+1ISmoKvNgbXZS3jUNSZRtdx8Xhfr8DcxD4OwSF+kjSpj9p8dlV6qQ4SksfrueJtro YGSg== X-Gm-Message-State: AJIora/Oq5FOijKt6/jSa5ztKMb49rao9ymR1/RR1KDkbSle1JwGVt9+ Qt/d2pbu8J/GMiJtOOIthHI= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGRyM1v6lwArwzwqDjUSKayn7lfOf6YdBDjzkR+KmWYHKQQRa+FZwUV3F3Eo1RWzpX/X4H1xYJfwPg== X-Received: by 2002:a17:907:6d01:b0:72f:53f:7a25 with SMTP id sa1-20020a1709076d0100b0072f053f7a25mr6177694ejc.126.1657977229200; Sat, 16 Jul 2022 06:13:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from skbuf ([188.25.231.115]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id jl10-20020a17090775ca00b0072ed9efc9dfsm3203279ejc.48.2022.07.16.06.13.46 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Sat, 16 Jul 2022 06:13:48 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2022 16:13:45 +0300 From: Vladimir Oltean To: "Russell King (Oracle)" Cc: Jakub Kicinski , Andrew Lunn , Heiner Kallweit , Alexandre Belloni , Alvin =?utf-8?Q?=C5=A0ipraga?= , Andy Shevchenko , Claudiu Manoil , Daniel Scally , "David S. Miller" , DENG Qingfang , Eric Dumazet , Florian Fainelli , George McCollister , Greg Kroah-Hartman , Hauke Mehrtens , Heikki Krogerus , Kurt Kanzenbach , Landen Chao , Linus Walleij , linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org, Marek =?utf-8?B?QmVow7pu?= , Matthias Brugger , netdev@vger.kernel.org, Paolo Abeni , "Rafael J. Wysocki" , Sakari Ailus , Sean Wang , UNGLinuxDriver@microchip.com, Vivien Didelot , Woojung Huh Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 0/6] net: dsa: always use phylink Message-ID: <20220716131345.b2jas3rucsifli7g@skbuf> References: <20220715171719.niqcrklpk4ittfvl@skbuf> <20220715160359.2e9dabfe@kernel.org> <20220716111551.64rjruz4q4g5uzee@skbuf> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org On Sat, Jul 16, 2022 at 12:43:00PM +0100, Russell King (Oracle) wrote: > In the first RFC series I sent on the 24 June, I explicitly asked the > following questions: (...) > I even stated: "Please look at the patches and make suggestions on how > we can proceed to clean up this quirk of DSA." and made no mention of > wanting something explicitly from Andrew. > > Yet, none of those questions were answered. > > So no, Jakub's comments are *not* misdirected at all. Go back and read > my June 24th RFC series yourself: > > https://lore.kernel.org/all/YrWi5oBFn7vR15BH@shell.armlinux.org.uk/ I don't believe I need to justify myself any further for why I didn't leave a comment on any certain day. I left my comments when I believed it was most appropriate for me to intervene (as someone who isn't really affected in any way by the changes, except for generally maintaining what's in net/dsa/, and wanting to keep a clean framework structure). Also, to repeat myself, blaming me for leaving comments, but doing so late, is not really fair. I could have not responded at all, and I wouldn't be having this unpleasant discussion. It begs the question whether you're willing to be held accountable in the same way for the dates on which you respond on RFC patches. > I've *tried* my best to be kind and collaborative, but I've been > ignored. Now I'm hacked off. This could have been avoided by responding > to my explicit questions sooner, rather than at the -rc6/-rc7 stage of > the show. I think you should continue to try your best to be kind and collaborative, you weren't provoked or intentionally ignored in any way, and it isn't doing these patches any good. 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Wysocki" , Sakari Ailus , Sean Wang , UNGLinuxDriver@microchip.com, Vivien Didelot , Woojung Huh Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 0/6] net: dsa: always use phylink Message-ID: <20220716131345.b2jas3rucsifli7g@skbuf> References: <20220715171719.niqcrklpk4ittfvl@skbuf> <20220715160359.2e9dabfe@kernel.org> <20220716111551.64rjruz4q4g5uzee@skbuf> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-CRM114-Version: 20100106-BlameMichelson ( TRE 0.8.0 (BSD) ) MR-646709E3 X-CRM114-CacheID: sfid-20220716_061355_559121_17E54EBB X-CRM114-Status: GOOD ( 17.94 ) X-BeenThere: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: "linux-arm-kernel" Errors-To: linux-arm-kernel-bounces+linux-arm-kernel=archiver.kernel.org@lists.infradead.org On Sat, Jul 16, 2022 at 12:43:00PM +0100, Russell King (Oracle) wrote: > In the first RFC series I sent on the 24 June, I explicitly asked the > following questions: (...) > I even stated: "Please look at the patches and make suggestions on how > we can proceed to clean up this quirk of DSA." and made no mention of > wanting something explicitly from Andrew. > > Yet, none of those questions were answered. > > So no, Jakub's comments are *not* misdirected at all. Go back and read > my June 24th RFC series yourself: > > https://lore.kernel.org/all/YrWi5oBFn7vR15BH@shell.armlinux.org.uk/ I don't believe I need to justify myself any further for why I didn't leave a comment on any certain day. I left my comments when I believed it was most appropriate for me to intervene (as someone who isn't really affected in any way by the changes, except for generally maintaining what's in net/dsa/, and wanting to keep a clean framework structure). Also, to repeat myself, blaming me for leaving comments, but doing so late, is not really fair. I could have not responded at all, and I wouldn't be having this unpleasant discussion. It begs the question whether you're willing to be held accountable in the same way for the dates on which you respond on RFC patches. > I've *tried* my best to be kind and collaborative, but I've been > ignored. Now I'm hacked off. This could have been avoided by responding > to my explicit questions sooner, rather than at the -rc6/-rc7 stage of > the show. I think you should continue to try your best to be kind and collaborative, you weren't provoked or intentionally ignored in any way, and it isn't doing these patches any good. _______________________________________________ linux-arm-kernel mailing list linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-arm-kernel