From: "Richard W.M. Jones" <rjones@redhat.com>
To: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Laurent Vivier <laurent@vivier.eu>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] linux-user: use 'max' instead of 'qemu32' / 'qemu64' by defualt
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2022 13:05:13 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220826120513.GA30245@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220826113900.794046-1-berrange@redhat.com>
On Fri, Aug 26, 2022 at 12:39:00PM +0100, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> The 'qemu64' CPU model implements the least featureful x86_64 CPU that's
> possible. Historically this hasn't been an issue since it was rare for
> OS distros to build with a higher mandatory CPU baseline.
>
> With RHEL-9, however, the entire distro is built for the x86_64-v2 ABI
> baseline:
>
> https://developers.redhat.com/blog/2021/01/05/building-red-hat-enterprise-linux-9-for-the-x86-64-v2-microarchitecture-level
>
> It is likely that other distros may take similar steps in the not too
> distant future. For example, it has been suggested for Fedora on a
> number of occassions.
>
> This new baseline is not compatible with the qemu64 CPU model though.
> While it is possible to pass a '-cpu xxx' flag to qemu-x86_64, the
> usage of QEMU doesn't always allow for this. For example, the args
> are typically controlled via binfmt rules that the user has no ability
> to change. This impacts users who are trying to use podman on aarch64
> platforms, to run containers with x86_64 content. There's no arg to
> podman that can be used to change the qemu-x86_64 args, and a non-root
> user of podman can not change binfmt rules without elevating privileges:
>
> https://github.com/containers/podman/issues/15456#issuecomment-1228210973
>
> Changing to the 'max' CPU model gives 'qemu-x86_64' maximum
> compatibility with binaries it is likely to encounter in the wild,
> and not likely to have a significant downside for existing usage.
>
> Most other architectures already use an 'any' CPU model, which is
> often mapped to 'max' (or similar) already, rather than the oldest
> possible CPU model.
>
> For the sake of consistency the 'i386' architecture is also changed
> from using 'qemu32' to 'max'.
>
> Signed-off-by: Daniel P. Berrangé <berrange@redhat.com>
> ---
> linux-user/i386/target_elf.h | 2 +-
> linux-user/x86_64/target_elf.h | 2 +-
> 2 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/linux-user/i386/target_elf.h b/linux-user/i386/target_elf.h
> index 1c6142e7da..238a9aba73 100644
> --- a/linux-user/i386/target_elf.h
> +++ b/linux-user/i386/target_elf.h
> @@ -9,6 +9,6 @@
> #define I386_TARGET_ELF_H
> static inline const char *cpu_get_model(uint32_t eflags)
> {
> - return "qemu32";
> + return "max";
> }
> #endif
> diff --git a/linux-user/x86_64/target_elf.h b/linux-user/x86_64/target_elf.h
> index 7b76a90de8..3f628f8d66 100644
> --- a/linux-user/x86_64/target_elf.h
> +++ b/linux-user/x86_64/target_elf.h
> @@ -9,6 +9,6 @@
> #define X86_64_TARGET_ELF_H
> static inline const char *cpu_get_model(uint32_t eflags)
> {
> - return "qemu64";
> + return "max";
> }
> #endif
Can we be assured we won't ever hit this TCG bug that currently
affects -cpu max ?
https://gitlab.com/qemu-project/qemu/-/issues/1023
I'm going to guess we will be OK because qemu-user doesn't run a
kernel and therefore wouldn't normally touch %cr3. Is there any other
situation? (Of course it would be better all round if that glaring
bug could be fixed.)
Rich.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-08-26 12:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-08-26 11:39 [PATCH] linux-user: use 'max' instead of 'qemu32' / 'qemu64' by defualt Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-08-26 11:50 ` Claudio Fontana
2022-08-26 12:29 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-08-26 12:59 ` Claudio Fontana
2022-08-26 12:05 ` Richard W.M. Jones [this message]
2022-08-26 12:21 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-08-26 14:21 ` Richard Henderson
2022-09-20 14:17 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé via
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