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From: "Marek Behún" <kabel@kernel.org>
To: Vladimir Oltean <vladimir.oltean@nxp.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 0/9] DSA changes for multiple CPU ports (part 4)
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2022 04:48:32 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220903044832.125984e2@thinkpad> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220902103145.faccoawnaqh6cn3r@skbuf>

On Fri, 2 Sep 2022 10:31:46 +0000
Vladimir Oltean <vladimir.oltean@nxp.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Aug 30, 2022 at 10:59:23PM +0300, Vladimir Oltean wrote:
> > This series represents the final part of that effort. We have:
> > 
> > - the introduction of new UAPI in the form of IFLA_DSA_MASTER  
> 
> Call for opinions: when I resend this, should I keep rtnl_link_ops,
> or should I do what Marek attempted to do, and make the existing iflink
> between a user port and its master writable from user space?
> https://lore.kernel.org/netdev/20190824024251.4542-4-marek.behun@nic.cz/
> 
> I'm not sure if we have that many more use cases for rtnl_link_ops..
> at some point I was thinking we could change the way in which dsa_loop
> probes, and allow dynamic creation of such interfaces using RTM_NEWLINK;
> but looking closer at that, it's a bit more complicated, since we'd need
> to attach dsa_loop user ports to a virtual switch, and probe all ports
> at the same time rather than one by one.

My opinion is that it would be better to add new DSA specific netlink
operations instead of using the existing iflink as I did in the that
patch.

I think that DSA should have it's own IP subcommands. Using the
standard, already existing API, is not sufficient for more complex
configurations/DSA routing settings. Consider DSA where there are
multiple switches and the switches are connected via multiple ports:

+----------+   +---------------+   +---------+
|     eth0 <---> sw0p0   sw0p2 <---> sw1p0
| cpu      |   |               |   |        ....
|     eth1 <---> sw0p1   s20p3 <---> sw1p1
+----------+   +---------------+   +---------+

The routing is more complicated in this scenario. The old API is not
sufficient.

Marek

  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-09-03  2:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-30 19:59 [PATCH net-next 0/9] DSA changes for multiple CPU ports (part 4) Vladimir Oltean
2022-08-30 19:59 ` [PATCH net-next 1/9] net: introduce iterators over synced hw addresses Vladimir Oltean
2022-08-30 19:59 ` [PATCH net-next 2/9] net: dsa: introduce dsa_port_get_master() Vladimir Oltean
2022-08-30 19:59 ` [PATCH net-next 3/9] net: dsa: allow the DSA master to be seen and changed through rtnetlink Vladimir Oltean
2022-09-01  3:50   ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-09-01 13:29     ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-08-30 19:59 ` [PATCH net-next 4/9] net: dsa: don't keep track of admin/oper state on LAG DSA masters Vladimir Oltean
2022-08-30 19:59 ` [PATCH net-next 5/9] net: dsa: suppress appending ethtool stats to " Vladimir Oltean
2022-08-30 19:59 ` [PATCH net-next 6/9] net: dsa: suppress device links " Vladimir Oltean
2022-08-30 19:59 ` [PATCH net-next 7/9] net: dsa: allow masters to join a LAG Vladimir Oltean
2022-08-30 19:59 ` [PATCH net-next 8/9] docs: net: dsa: update information about multiple CPU ports Vladimir Oltean
2022-08-30 19:59 ` [PATCH net-next 9/9] net: dsa: felix: add support for changing DSA master Vladimir Oltean
2022-09-02 10:31 ` [PATCH net-next 0/9] DSA changes for multiple CPU ports (part 4) Vladimir Oltean
2022-09-02 18:33   ` Florian Fainelli
2022-09-02 18:40     ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-09-03  2:48   ` Marek Behún [this message]
2022-09-04 15:41     ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-09-02 18:44 ` Christian Marangi
2022-09-03  2:50   ` Marek Behún
2022-09-04 19:34   ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-09-06 16:10     ` Colin Foster
2022-09-06 16:18       ` Vladimir Oltean

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