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Tsirkin" , Stefan Weil , Paolo Bonzini , Jason Wang , Samuel Thibault , Anthony Perard , Laine Stump Subject: Re: [PATCH v13 17/17] net: stream: add QAPI events to report connection state Message-ID: <20221021114052.339f6aac@elisabeth> In-Reply-To: <87lep935hn.fsf@pond.sub.org> References: <20221020162558.123284-1-lvivier@redhat.com> <20221020162558.123284-18-lvivier@redhat.com> <87pmel4th4.fsf@pond.sub.org> <52e989b9-6f8d-99c6-ef04-3ce32006b002@redhat.com> <87lep935hn.fsf@pond.sub.org> Organization: Red Hat MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 3.1 on 10.11.54.7 [Cc: Laine, full quote] On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 11:12:20 +0200 Markus Armbruster wrote: > Cc: Stefano Brivio > > Laurent Vivier writes: > > > On 10/21/22 07:48, Markus Armbruster wrote: > >> Laurent Vivier writes: > >> > >>> The netdev reports NETDEV_STREAM_CONNECTED event when the backend > >>> is connected, and NETDEV_STREAM_DISCONNECTED when it is disconnected. > >> > >> Use cases? > > > > This is asked by Stefano Brivio to allow libvirt to detect if connection to passt is lost and to restart passt. > > Let's add something like this to the commit message: > > This lets libvirt notice when the connection is lost somehow, and > restart the peer (such as passt). > > Who's working on the libvirt part? Laine Stump and myself. Nothing to show yet, though. > > I have also a patch to add a "reconnect=seconds" option, but I didn't want to add it to this series. > > It's okay to mention future work in commit messages, but not required. > > >> Could similar event signalling be useful for other kinds of netdev > >> backends? > > > > I was wondering, but it becomes more complicated to be generic. > > Making something complicated and generic where a simpler special > solution would do is the worst. > > Not quite as bad (but still plenty bad) is making a few special > solutions first, then replace them all with a generic solution. > > I believe we should have a good, hard think on possible applications of > a generic solution now. > > There is no need to hold back this series for that. > > If we conclude a generic solution is called for, we better replace this > special solution before it becomes ABI. Either by replacing it before > we release it, or by keeping it unstable until we replace it. -- Stefano