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From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
To: Shai Malin <smalin@nvidia.com>
Cc: Aurelien Aptel <aaptel@nvidia.com>,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"davem@davemloft.net" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"edumazet@google.com" <edumazet@google.com>,
	"pabeni@redhat.com" <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	Saeed Mahameed <saeedm@nvidia.com>,
	Tariq Toukan <tariqt@nvidia.com>,
	"leon@kernel.org" <leon@kernel.org>,
	"linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org" <linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org>,
	"sagi@grimberg.me" <sagi@grimberg.me>, "hch@lst.de" <hch@lst.de>,
	"kbusch@kernel.org" <kbusch@kernel.org>,
	"axboe@fb.com" <axboe@fb.com>,
	Chaitanya Kulkarni <chaitanyak@nvidia.com>,
	Or Gerlitz <ogerlitz@nvidia.com>, Yoray Zack <yorayz@nvidia.com>,
	Boris Pismenny <borisp@nvidia.com>,
	"aurelien.aptel@gmail.com" <aurelien.aptel@gmail.com>,
	"malin1024@gmail.com" <malin1024@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 01/23] net: Introduce direct data placement tcp offload
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2022 09:24:49 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20221026092449.5f839b36@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DM6PR12MB3564FB23C582CEF338D11435BC309@DM6PR12MB3564.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>

On Wed, 26 Oct 2022 15:01:42 +0000 Shai Malin wrote:
> > > @@ -14,7 +14,7 @@ typedef u64 netdev_features_t;
> > >  enum {
> > >       NETIF_F_SG_BIT,                 /* Scatter/gather IO. */
> > >       NETIF_F_IP_CSUM_BIT,            /* Can checksum TCP/UDP over IPv4. */
> > > -     __UNUSED_NETIF_F_1,
> > > +     NETIF_F_HW_ULP_DDP_BIT,         /* ULP direct data placement offload */  
> > 
> > Why do you need a feature bit if there is a whole caps / limit querying
> > mechanism?  
> 
> The caps are used for the HW device to publish the supported 
> capabilities/limitation, while the feature bit is used for the DDP 
> enablement "per net-device".
> 
> Disabling will be required in case that another feature which is 
> mutually exclusive to the DDP is needed (as an example in the mlx case, 
> CQE compress which is controlled from ethtool).

It's a big enough feature to add a genetlink or at least a ethtool
command to control. If you add more L5 protos presumably you'll want
to control disable / enable separately for them. Also it'd be cleaner
to expose the full capabilities and report stats via a dedicated API.
Feature bits are not a good fix for complex control-pathy features.

> > It's somewhat unclear to me why we add ops to struct net_device,
> > rather than to ops.. can you explain?  
> 
> We were trying to follow the TLS design which is similar.

Ack, TLS should really move as well, IMHO, but that's a separate convo.

> Can you please clarify what do you mean by "rather than to ops.."?

Add the ulp_dpp_ops pointer to struct net_device_ops rather than struct
net_device.


  reply	other threads:[~2022-10-26 16:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-10-25 13:59 [PATCH v7 00/23] nvme-tcp receive offloads Aurelien Aptel
2022-10-25 13:59 ` [PATCH v7 01/23] net: Introduce direct data placement tcp offload Aurelien Aptel
2022-10-25 22:39   ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-10-26 15:01     ` Shai Malin
2022-10-26 16:24       ` Jakub Kicinski [this message]
2022-10-28 10:32         ` Shai Malin
2022-10-28 15:40           ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-10-31 18:13             ` Shai Malin
2022-10-31 23:47               ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-11-03 17:23                 ` Shai Malin
2022-11-03 17:29                   ` Aurelien Aptel
2022-11-04  1:57                     ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-11-04 13:44                       ` Aurelien Aptel
2022-11-04 16:15                         ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-10-25 13:59 ` [PATCH v7 02/23] iov_iter: DDP copy to iter/pages Aurelien Aptel
2022-10-25 16:01   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-10-26 16:05     ` Aurelien Aptel
2022-10-25 22:40   ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-10-25 13:59 ` [PATCH v7 03/23] net/tls: export get_netdev_for_sock Aurelien Aptel
2022-10-25 16:12   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-10-26 15:55     ` Aurelien Aptel
2022-10-30 16:06       ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-10-25 13:59 ` [PATCH v7 04/23] Revert "nvme-tcp: remove the unused queue_size member in nvme_tcp_queue" Aurelien Aptel
2022-10-25 16:14   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-10-26 11:02     ` Sagi Grimberg
2022-10-26 11:52       ` Shai Malin
2022-10-25 13:59 ` [PATCH v7 05/23] nvme-tcp: Add DDP offload control path Aurelien Aptel
2022-10-25 13:59 ` [PATCH v7 06/23] nvme-tcp: Add DDP data-path Aurelien Aptel
2022-10-25 13:59 ` [PATCH v7 07/23] nvme-tcp: RX DDGST offload Aurelien Aptel
2022-10-25 13:59 ` [PATCH v7 08/23] nvme-tcp: Deal with netdevice DOWN events Aurelien Aptel
2022-10-25 13:59 ` [PATCH v7 09/23] nvme-tcp: Add modparam to control the ULP offload enablement Aurelien Aptel
2022-10-25 13:59 ` [PATCH v7 10/23] Documentation: add ULP DDP offload documentation Aurelien Aptel
2022-10-26 22:23   ` kernel test robot
2022-10-25 13:59 ` [PATCH v7 11/23] net/mlx5e: Rename from tls to transport static params Aurelien Aptel
2022-10-25 13:59 ` [PATCH v7 12/23] net/mlx5e: Refactor ico sq polling to get budget Aurelien Aptel
2022-10-25 13:59 ` [PATCH v7 13/23] net/mlx5e: Have mdev pointer directly on the icosq structure Aurelien Aptel
2022-10-25 13:59 ` [PATCH v7 14/23] net/mlx5e: Refactor doorbell function to allow avoiding a completion Aurelien Aptel
2022-10-25 13:59 ` [PATCH v7 15/23] net/mlx5: Add NVMEoTCP caps, HW bits, 128B CQE and enumerations Aurelien Aptel
2022-10-25 13:59 ` [PATCH v7 16/23] net/mlx5e: NVMEoTCP, offload initialization Aurelien Aptel
2022-10-25 13:59 ` [PATCH v7 17/23] net/mlx5e: TCP flow steering for nvme-tcp acceleration Aurelien Aptel
2022-10-25 13:59 ` [PATCH v7 18/23] net/mlx5e: NVMEoTCP, use KLM UMRs for buffer registration Aurelien Aptel
2022-10-25 13:59 ` [PATCH v7 19/23] net/mlx5e: NVMEoTCP, queue init/teardown Aurelien Aptel
2022-10-25 13:59 ` [PATCH v7 20/23] net/mlx5e: NVMEoTCP, ddp setup and resync Aurelien Aptel
2022-10-25 13:59 ` [PATCH v7 21/23] net/mlx5e: NVMEoTCP, async ddp invalidation Aurelien Aptel
2022-10-25 13:59 ` [PATCH v7 22/23] net/mlx5e: NVMEoTCP, data-path for DDP+DDGST offload Aurelien Aptel
2022-10-25 13:59 ` [PATCH v7 23/23] net/mlx5e: NVMEoTCP, statistics Aurelien Aptel
2022-10-25 16:00 ` [PATCH v7 00/23] nvme-tcp receive offloads Christoph Hellwig
2022-10-26  8:28   ` Or Gerlitz
2022-10-26 11:52   ` Aurelien Aptel
2022-10-27 10:35 ` Sagi Grimberg
2022-10-27 10:45   ` Shai Malin

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