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From: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
To: Andrei Vagin <avagin@google.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andrei Vagin <avagin@gmail.com>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>,
	Daniel Bristot de Oliveira <bristot@redhat.com>,
	Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched: consider WF_SYNC to find idle siblings
Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2022 09:41:57 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20221101094157.a3gh2ko6otaa6cyw@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20221027202603.670616-1-avagin@google.com>

On Thu, Oct 27, 2022 at 01:26:03PM -0700, Andrei Vagin wrote:
> From: Andrei Vagin <avagin@gmail.com>
> 
> WF_SYNC means that the waker goes to sleep after wakeup, so the current
> cpu can be considered idle if the waker is the only process that is
> running on it.
> 
> The perf pipe benchmark shows that this change reduces the average time
> per operation from 8.8 usecs/op to 3.7 usecs/op.
> 
> Before:
>  $ ./tools/perf/perf bench sched pipe
>  # Running 'sched/pipe' benchmark:
>  # Executed 1000000 pipe operations between two processes
> 
>      Total time: 8.813 [sec]
> 
>        8.813985 usecs/op
>          113456 ops/sec
> 
> After:
>  $ ./tools/perf/perf bench sched pipe
>  # Running 'sched/pipe' benchmark:
>  # Executed 1000000 pipe operations between two processes
> 
>      Total time: 3.743 [sec]
> 
>        3.743971 usecs/op
>          267096 ops/sec
> 

The WF_SYNC hint in unreliable as the waking process does not always
go to sleep immediately. While it's great for a benchmark like a pipe
benchmark as the relationship is strictly synchronous, it does not work
out as well for networking which can use WF_SYNC for wakeups but either
multiple tasks are being woken up or the waker does not go to sleep as
there is sufficient inbound traffic to keep it awake. There used to be
an attempt to track how accurate WF_SYNC was, using avg_overlap I think,
but it was ultimately removed.

-- 
Mel Gorman
SUSE Labs

  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-11-01  9:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-10-27 20:26 [PATCH] sched: consider WF_SYNC to find idle siblings Andrei Vagin
2022-10-31 12:57 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-31 22:37   ` Andrei Vagin
2022-11-16 10:57   ` Mel Gorman
2022-11-16 18:50     ` Andrei Vagin
2022-11-01  9:41 ` Mel Gorman [this message]
2022-11-01 12:58   ` Chen Yu
2022-11-02  0:18   ` Andrei Vagin
2022-11-14  9:56 ` K Prateek Nayak
2022-11-21 13:59 ` kernel test robot
2022-11-22  5:52 ` kernel test robot

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