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Miller" , Heiner Kallweit Errors-To: linuxppc-dev-bounces+linuxppc-dev=archiver.kernel.org@lists.ozlabs.org Sender: "Linuxppc-dev" On Thu, Nov 10, 2022 at 11:56:15AM -0500, Sean Anderson wrote: > these will probably be in device trees for a year before the kernel > starts using them. But once that is done, we are free to require them. Sorry, you need to propose something that is not "we can break compatibility with today's device trees one year from now". 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Miller" , Alexandre Belloni , Benjamin Herrenschmidt , Claudiu Manoil , Florian Fainelli , Frank Rowand , Krzysztof Kozlowski , Leo Li , Michael Ellerman , Paul Mackerras , Rob Herring , Saravana Kannan , Shawn Guo , "UNGLinuxDriver@microchip.com" , Vivien Didelot , "devicetree@vger.kernel.org" , "linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org" , "linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org" Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v2 00/11] net: pcs: Add support for devices probed in the "usual" manner Message-ID: <20221114172357.hdzua4xo7wixtbgs@skbuf> References: <20221103210650.2325784-1-sean.anderson@seco.com> <20221109224110.erfaftzja4fybdbc@skbuf> <20221110152925.3gkkp5opf74oqrxb@skbuf> <7b4fb14f-1ca0-e4f8-46ca-3884392627c2@seco.com> <20221110160008.6t53ouoxqeu7w7qr@skbuf> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-CRM114-Version: 20100106-BlameMichelson ( TRE 0.8.0 (BSD) ) MR-646709E3 X-CRM114-CacheID: sfid-20221114_092406_119209_874C6155 X-CRM114-Status: GOOD ( 10.79 ) X-BeenThere: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: "linux-arm-kernel" Errors-To: linux-arm-kernel-bounces+linux-arm-kernel=archiver.kernel.org@lists.infradead.org On Thu, Nov 10, 2022 at 11:56:15AM -0500, Sean Anderson wrote: > these will probably be in device trees for a year before the kernel > starts using them. But once that is done, we are free to require them. Sorry, you need to propose something that is not "we can break compatibility with today's device trees one year from now". _______________________________________________ linux-arm-kernel mailing list linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-arm-kernel From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A332C43217 for ; Mon, 14 Nov 2022 17:24:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S230520AbiKNRYG (ORCPT ); Mon, 14 Nov 2022 12:24:06 -0500 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:59292 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S236747AbiKNRYD (ORCPT ); Mon, 14 Nov 2022 12:24:03 -0500 Received: from mail-ej1-x631.google.com (mail-ej1-x631.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::631]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8F893AE61; Mon, 14 Nov 2022 09:24:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-ej1-x631.google.com with SMTP id n20so9447244ejh.0; Mon, 14 Nov 2022 09:24:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=in-reply-to:content-disposition:mime-version:references:message-id :subject:cc:to:from:date:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=6TuL0Y+rO9fxtmzmyAVa69XJKRgqWPJ2OfFK7yf03Q8=; b=YFSnsQf8sjzTuSTT6mTlCVstF8oHuYZEdzipDMt8cUsFTTqvRZFSEEDVqqDe93TP1S K7Kp2QoZllY/I/lJWkF9sz47M/SuWDcqsYQgyIdskdg6U+3HZZNdjYBY2PFoBQ0vV1Ed tuxPMDsZKPY4KGox8ZZ49QqlWkf/CN3FKfpDNqpIgzILDUFb4kkTKWqFARtbnyPkxalR nDwAZwITlDKr/DOEcSEcgEHbVrdpmkyfakblsTFiwGq59M+SuzWDkT2v9mT93khiUS/O IBxgICoguQV8gqLVy2zpi7r0Xy0LF4k4OYZwjEPPsd5nRrE4btcz80oFoTdyMO+VgzJQ /PCg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=in-reply-to:content-disposition:mime-version:references:message-id :subject:cc:to:from:date:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=6TuL0Y+rO9fxtmzmyAVa69XJKRgqWPJ2OfFK7yf03Q8=; b=8Hmbm+QVNBpEU3iuYoxA5ZqUmDLWWwvYibyLqQNOx3nA9FcUXRAO1Rebsi76GehbyU aMn541jWFpAr1qNMvbLDRdKX9hBXzPx7HBLDLdP7KQPVbocu8h5yAGpPwsU0lMGe4nmF aOCoj3QKfZXcZU59zk8YI/Y7IQqt7KgFMOg9Jth7RADeNU4g1skud6yxr8h6XjbSKOot VaoKBFiyeiZfjAPY0NXUzBRAEunJGHA+CLAWbfruQ8PHtBcRBG29xg8ZYGSJPEFo8NJ2 VoRonj7cMNxSe9QFAnK2VCJhXya/ofjF+XYBz11NnNHjTQ+gnRe/Ihxq8RZ6cUHk8l1Z v+pw== X-Gm-Message-State: ANoB5pldGJ1rMRq36LurLwBshmT3S+7JuS1TMu9Fip4ZXc/TDDhrgR11 7t2PYsTN8DIluU5bEvyvlhPGlhHxpC0IfQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AA0mqf5NU+UWrKjaeZ380Kdx+esoqf/0KQ1RMqDlFFH7/GMR4NAoZ9NpbjGL8EabJ5Pb/MYS6M7Qpw== X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:c1c6:b0:7ad:7e81:1409 with SMTP id bw6-20020a170906c1c600b007ad7e811409mr11094550ejb.326.1668446641117; Mon, 14 Nov 2022 09:24:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from skbuf ([188.25.170.202]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id de30-20020a1709069bde00b0073d796a1043sm4388883ejc.123.2022.11.14.09.23.59 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Mon, 14 Nov 2022 09:24:00 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2022 19:23:57 +0200 From: Vladimir Oltean To: Sean Anderson Cc: Vladimir Oltean , Heiner Kallweit , Russell King , "netdev@vger.kernel.org" , Eric Dumazet , Paolo Abeni , Jakub Kicinski , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , Andrew Lunn , Ioana Ciornei , Madalin Bucur , "David S . Miller" , Alexandre Belloni , Benjamin Herrenschmidt , Claudiu Manoil , Florian Fainelli , Frank Rowand , Krzysztof Kozlowski , Leo Li , Michael Ellerman , Paul Mackerras , Rob Herring , Saravana Kannan , Shawn Guo , "UNGLinuxDriver@microchip.com" , Vivien Didelot , "devicetree@vger.kernel.org" , "linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org" , "linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org" Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v2 00/11] net: pcs: Add support for devices probed in the "usual" manner Message-ID: <20221114172357.hdzua4xo7wixtbgs@skbuf> References: <20221103210650.2325784-1-sean.anderson@seco.com> <20221109224110.erfaftzja4fybdbc@skbuf> <20221110152925.3gkkp5opf74oqrxb@skbuf> <7b4fb14f-1ca0-e4f8-46ca-3884392627c2@seco.com> <20221110160008.6t53ouoxqeu7w7qr@skbuf> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: devicetree@vger.kernel.org On Thu, Nov 10, 2022 at 11:56:15AM -0500, Sean Anderson wrote: > these will probably be in device trees for a year before the kernel > starts using them. But once that is done, we are free to require them. Sorry, you need to propose something that is not "we can break compatibility with today's device trees one year from now".