From: Denys Dmytriyenko <denis@denix.org>
To: Ryan Eatmon <reatmon@ti.com>
Cc: Andrew Davis <afd@ti.com>,
rs@ti.com, denys@ti.com, detheridge@ti.com,
meta-arago@lists.yoctoproject.org, k-bhargav@ti.com
Subject: Re: [meta-arago] [PATCH] all: Remove excessive switches based on gpu
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2023 13:03:04 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230127180304.GG22689@denix.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0c318fc9-17b6-7a33-714a-64acb12b48de@ti.com>
On Fri, Jan 27, 2023 at 10:52:34AM -0600, Ryan Eatmon wrote:
>
>
> On 1/27/2023 9:52, Andrew Davis wrote:
> >On 1/26/23 6:51 PM, Randolph Sapp via lists.yoctoproject.org wrote:
> >>On Thu, Jan 26 2023 at 03:58:01 PM -0500, Denys Dmytriyenko
> >><denis@denix.org> wrote:
> >>>I'm realizing now that simply depending on "opengl"
> >>>DISTRO_FEATURES won't be
> >>>enough, unfortunately.
> >>>
> >>>The issue is that DISTRO_FEATURES are set by the distro globally for all
> >>>machines, whether with accelerated graphics, display w/o acceleration or
> >>>completely headless. E.g. when building for J7200, "opengl"
> >>>will be set, but
> >>>none of the graphics packages should be built or installed
> >>>into the image.
> >>>
> >>>So, some sort of check for MACHINE_FEATURES or PREFERRED_PROVIDER (less
> >>>elegant) would still be needed in some places...
> >>
> >>Arguably that's a package group / distro target issue. I believe
> >>when a user selects the default image with all features enabled
> >>for J721E and J721S2 the package selection should be equivalent
> >>(or at least as equivalent as possible with the stuff going on
> >>now in meta-ti) to align with the distro features selected. I
> >>believe the solution to this is to add a headless target/image
> >>that removes Qt, GTK, etc. from the selected package groups and
> >>to suggest the use of that instead if users want a truly
> >>headless distro.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Agree here, I believe this was the solution we came up with in
> >our call the other day.
> >
> >I'd go as far as suggesting we drop the "default" image and try to match
> >Ubuntu naming here. Have 3 images: Desktop, Server, and IoT. (IoT is
> >a rebranded tisdk-thinlinux-image). User selects the one that matches
> >their usecase, no need to force them into one bucket automatically based
> >on their hardware.
> >
> >Andrew
>
>
> That level of renaming will likely require a broader audience. I
> agree that it would be clearer naming to follow what other
> distributions do and not invent our own names.
Agree. As I mentioned on the call yesterday, last round of image (re-)naming
took quite a while and lots of effort to get everyone on the product side
aligned and agree...
Moreover, images is just part of the problem - some thought needs to be put
into how the devkit is produced (and or named) and the top-level SDK product
bundle, which combines all images, devkit and docs/manifests.
--
Denys
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-01-27 18:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-01-24 23:17 [PATCH] all: Remove excessive switches based on gpu Randolph Sapp
2023-01-25 16:33 ` [meta-arago] " Andrew Davis
2023-01-25 23:16 ` Sapp, Randolph
2023-01-26 20:58 ` Denys Dmytriyenko
2023-01-27 0:51 ` [EXTERNAL] " Sapp, Randolph
2023-01-27 15:52 ` Andrew Davis
2023-01-27 16:52 ` Ryan Eatmon
2023-01-27 18:03 ` Denys Dmytriyenko [this message]
[not found] ` <173E3C7B75F9B49E.686@lists.yoctoproject.org>
2023-01-27 18:13 ` Denys Dmytriyenko
2023-01-27 18:38 ` Andrew Davis
2023-01-27 20:20 ` Ryan Eatmon
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