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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Marco Elver <elver@google.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Eric W . Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4] posix-timers: Prefer delivery of signals to the current thread
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2023 17:49:30 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230130164929.GB20353@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACT4Y+YzTK8+gKm9pZ1hwGvaN-ExmVLuxZYKVia+dnakv6+b5A@mail.gmail.com>

On 01/30, Dmitry Vyukov wrote:
>
> On Sat, 28 Jan 2023 at 20:56, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > Dmitry,
> >
> > I agree with what you said, just one note...
> >
> > On 01/27, Dmitry Vyukov wrote:
> > >
> > > After this change the test passes quickly (within a second for me).
> >
> > yet perhaps it makes sense to slightly change it? It does
> >
> >         +static void *distribution_thr(void *arg) {
> >         +       while (__atomic_load_n(&remain, __ATOMIC_RELAXED));
> >         +       return NULL;
> >         +}
> >
> > so distribution_thr() eats CPU even after this thread gets a signal and thus
> > (in theory) it can "steal" cpu_timer_fire() from other threads unpredictably
> > long ? How about
> >
> >         -       while (__atomic_load_n(&remain, __ATOMIC_RELAXED));
> >         +       while (__atomic_load_n(&got_signal, __ATOMIC_RELAXED));
> > ?
>
> But why?
> IIUC this makes the test even "weaker". As Thomas notes it's already
> somewhat "weak". And this would make it even "weaker".

Not sure I understand why can this change make the test more weak...

IIUC, _in theory_ the test-case can "hang" forever, since all threads
are running nothing guarentees that every thread will have a chance to
call cpu_timer_fire() and get a signal.

With this change this is not possible, and the test-case will still
verify that all threads must get a signal.

Nevermind,

> So if it passes
> in the current version, I would keep it as is.

OK, I won't insist, please forget.

Oleg.


  reply	other threads:[~2023-01-30 16:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-12-16 17:18 [RFC PATCH] posix-timers: Support delivery of signals to the current thread Dmitry Vyukov
2023-01-11 15:49 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2023-01-11 21:28   ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-01-12 11:24 ` [RFC PATCH v2] " Dmitry Vyukov
2023-01-25 12:43   ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-01-25 15:17     ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-01-25 15:34       ` Dmitry Vyukov
2023-01-25 16:31         ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-01-25 16:45           ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-01-25 17:07           ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-01-26 10:58             ` Dmitry Vyukov
2023-01-26 10:56           ` Dmitry Vyukov
2023-01-26 10:51   ` [PATCH v3] posix-timers: Prefer " Dmitry Vyukov
2023-01-26 14:46     ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-01-26 15:41     ` [PATCH v4] " Dmitry Vyukov
2023-01-26 17:51       ` Marco Elver
2023-01-26 19:57         ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-01-27  6:58           ` Dmitry Vyukov
2023-01-28 19:56             ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-01-28 20:15               ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-01-30  9:00               ` Dmitry Vyukov
2023-01-30 16:49                 ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2023-02-02  7:36             ` Dmitry Vyukov
2023-02-20 14:43       ` [PATCH v5] " Dmitry Vyukov
2023-02-22 15:19         ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-03-14  8:25           ` Dmitry Vyukov

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