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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Alvaro Karsz <alvaro.karsz@solid-run.com>
Cc: Parav Pandit <parav@nvidia.com>,
	Heng Qi <hengqi@linux.alibaba.com>,
	Xuan Zhuo <xuanzhuo@linux.alibaba.com>,
	"virtio-comment @ lists . oasis-open . org"
	<virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org>,
	"virtio-dev @ lists . oasis-open . org"
	<virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org>,
	Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [virtio-comment] [PATCH] virtio-net: support per-queue coalescing moderation
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2023 17:57:14 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230208175438-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJs=3_DFp=BNObtzB=x0Gprwcr-tCS2zEeJaRogZL-GdbUvP6Q@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Feb 09, 2023 at 12:35:42AM +0200, Alvaro Karsz wrote:
> > > From: Alvaro Karsz <alvaro.karsz@solid-run.com>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2023 4:56 PM
> >
> > > > Alvaro,
> > > > Do you know if any software used it? Can you get some real data?
> > >
> > > I implemented this feature in our DPU, so at least 1 vendor is using this feature
> >
> > But which software (virtio net driver) in which OS is using this?
> 
> Sorry, I'm not sure I understand your question.
> 
> The feature is implemented in the linux kernel
> https://github.com/torvalds/linux/commit/699b045a8e43bd1063db4795be685bfd659649dc
> So we'll always have kernel versions accepting this feature, if offered.
> 
> > > (I will add support for the per vq command of course).
> > > I really don't know about other vendors..
> > >
> > > You are suggesting to reserve the command and feature bit for safety, so, if we
> > > reserve them, why not just use them? What do we lose here?
> > >
> > If it is used by some unknown software, only that sw breaks by using non release spec.
> > If we use it by changing the definition, it may break that unknown sw.
> > If we know there is no known sw, we are better of with redefinition (by adding vqn, and by removing tx,rx from it).
> >
> > > Not having this feature/command even complicates things now that we are
> > > talking about removing the RX and TX from the per vq command, how do you
> > > change parameters to all TX queues? to all RX queues? we'll need 2 special
> > > indexes, so we now need le32 to hold the queue index.
> > No need for special index.
> > How does a driver disable all queues or reset all queues? -> One by one.
> > So if user want to change for all TXQ, sw can do it one by one by iterating TXQ vqns.
> 
> Yes, but resetting the queues doesn't require a control command.
> If a server has 64K queues, and a user wants to set all coalescing
> parameters to X (maybe with ethtool), it will generate 64K control
> commands..

Amount of time spent on bike-shedding here is mind-boggling.  Pls just
send a new version and we'll go from there.  In the end it's a majority
we don't have to have consensus if we can't get it.

-- 
MST


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  reply	other threads:[~2023-02-08 22:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-07 11:16 [virtio-comment] [PATCH] virtio-net: support per-queue coalescing moderation Heng Qi
2023-02-07 11:25 ` [virtio-comment] " Alvaro Karsz
2023-02-07 11:50   ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-02-07 12:51     ` Parav Pandit
2023-02-07 14:29       ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-07 14:40         ` Alvaro Karsz
2023-02-07 14:48           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-07 14:56             ` Alvaro Karsz
2023-02-07 15:09               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-07 15:25                 ` Parav Pandit
2023-02-07 15:28                   ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-07 15:30                     ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-02-08  1:58                     ` [virtio-comment] " Xuan Zhuo
2023-02-08  2:20         ` Heng Qi
2023-02-08  9:56           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-08 13:51             ` Parav Pandit
2023-02-07 14:06 ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-07 14:22   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-08  1:45   ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-02-08  2:20     ` Parav Pandit
2023-02-08  2:24       ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-02-08  2:43         ` Parav Pandit
2023-02-08 10:07           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-08 13:52             ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-02-08 11:30           ` Heng Qi
2023-02-08 14:17             ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-08 14:37               ` Parav Pandit
2023-02-08 14:42                 ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-08 14:44                   ` Parav Pandit
2023-02-08 14:48                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-08 15:04                       ` Parav Pandit
2023-02-08 15:20                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-08 15:27                           ` Parav Pandit
2023-02-08 19:23                             ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-02-08 20:48                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-08 17:53                         ` Alvaro Karsz
2023-02-08 20:52                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-08 21:05                             ` Parav Pandit
2023-02-08 21:55                               ` [virtio-dev] " Alvaro Karsz
2023-02-08 22:08                                 ` Parav Pandit
2023-02-08 22:15                                   ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-08 22:23                                     ` Parav Pandit
2023-02-08 22:29                                       ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-08 22:33                                         ` Parav Pandit
2023-02-08 22:45                                           ` Alvaro Karsz
2023-02-08 22:53                                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-08 22:35                                   ` [virtio-dev] " Alvaro Karsz
2023-02-08 22:57                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2023-02-09  0:06                                     ` Parav Pandit
2023-02-09  3:16                                     ` [virtio-comment] Re: [virtio-dev] " Heng Qi
2023-02-08 22:13                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-08 21:22                             ` Alvaro Karsz
2023-02-09  3:25                             ` Heng Qi
2023-02-09  3:12                           ` [virtio-comment] Re: [virtio-dev] " Heng Qi
2023-02-09  3:28                         ` [virtio-comment] Re: [virtio-dev] " Heng Qi
2023-02-08 14:44                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-08  2:27       ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-02-08  2:35       ` [virtio-comment] Re: [virtio-dev] " Heng Qi
2023-02-08  2:47         ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-02-08  1:57   ` [virtio-comment] Re: [virtio-dev] " Heng Qi
2023-02-08 10:04     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-08 11:23       ` Heng Qi
2023-02-08 13:39         ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-08 10:10     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-08 11:24       ` Heng Qi

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