From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from ws5-mx01.kavi.com (ws5-mx01.kavi.com [34.193.7.191]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A95E0C6FD1F for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2023 17:15:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lists.oasis-open.org (oasis.ws5.connectedcommunity.org [10.110.1.242]) by ws5-mx01.kavi.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3BD62B136 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2023 17:15:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lists.oasis-open.org (oasis-open.org [10.110.1.242]) by lists.oasis-open.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4B4F9866D3 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2023 17:15:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from host09.ws5.connectedcommunity.org (host09.ws5.connectedcommunity.org [10.110.1.97]) by lists.oasis-open.org (Postfix) with QMQP id 9E9109866CC; Tue, 7 Mar 2023 17:15:22 +0000 (UTC) Mailing-List: contact virtio-comment-help@lists.oasis-open.org; run by ezmlm List-ID: Sender: Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Received: from lists.oasis-open.org (oasis-open.org [10.110.1.242]) by lists.oasis-open.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B4E59866CD for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2023 17:15:22 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at kavi.com X-MC-Unique: OtWbm-zIOIOY3K0pnPD7kg-1 X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; t=1678209319; h=in-reply-to:content-disposition:mime-version:references:message-id :subject:cc:to:from:date:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=O9tfkcdHcSjyUmRJCpNoL5f0TcTXbihgplDDNbKgyzQ=; b=Nk7Blvmx0vGQYvLid26XTC0fyNan+I1Poty4RvGj9Pek8R2RvAI//NZQuJ0szT2q/0 4drjeWe8QbJMbrk44PsArO5rvSa7yWanfIV0vvKH6Hing68DN5QPsJVJ/8aqW1rrSmbk lC4UMnH+xBy1UdBg9D0PC1LeHo2WgxsMnDzSO9gXTGtYUvo7N5rFfl43GbVBWP0UrYM/ r5vuXowFjTqm967y224jmcoExX69KB4+LVPqKHzarR0PUfEruARuw8VQcDi3JwEVRvLB RR1Rtu4nhGkoiqwbL08VPbAGNhVigND0m7XQUeC4OU06KgXHvhuxb8u0OaYgiabdxo6e ayFA== X-Gm-Message-State: AO0yUKXrnmsw8dlsZZ+OSRQJ6yavyUv7N3ktJtbWrVDYD1dZhiIgFD+Y wf5uwD5R7lHFHbRbkYBWVygl0X+65wVin0b51hxWTKk6S1xKkE/RU2PyhVg/VAjpMtnDgGPN13Y bKR7UAtIqX8UxH94YmkxJctWiVO4FoM1HvA== X-Received: by 2002:a05:600c:a4c:b0:3dc:d5c:76d9 with SMTP id c12-20020a05600c0a4c00b003dc0d5c76d9mr14322246wmq.0.1678209318976; Tue, 07 Mar 2023 09:15:18 -0800 (PST) X-Google-Smtp-Source: AK7set/R4YX3qhGoPH/6DVrZdjBvv+J9mgSrD/HrYg1CDyY/mLAzez/hgcUTMyaLN/1DzJlCPgG4BQ== X-Received: by 2002:a05:600c:a4c:b0:3dc:d5c:76d9 with SMTP id c12-20020a05600c0a4c00b003dc0d5c76d9mr14322216wmq.0.1678209318649; Tue, 07 Mar 2023 09:15:18 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2023 12:15:14 -0500 From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" To: Jiri Pirko Cc: virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org, virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org, jasowang@redhat.com, cohuck@redhat.com, sgarzare@redhat.com, stefanha@redhat.com, nrupal.jani@intel.com, Piotr.Uminski@intel.com, hang.yuan@intel.com, virtio@lists.oasis-open.org, Zhu Lingshan , pasic@linux.ibm.com, Shahaf Shuler , Parav Pandit , Max Gurtovoy Message-ID: <20230307121455-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> References: <20230306174654-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: X-Mimecast-Spam-Score: 0 X-Mimecast-Originator: redhat.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: [virtio-comment] [PATCH v10 00/10] Introduce device group and device management On Tue, Mar 07, 2023 at 08:17:03AM +0100, Jiri Pirko wrote: > Mon, Mar 06, 2023 at 11:48:32PM CET, mst@redhat.com wrote: > >On Mon, Mar 06, 2023 at 05:40:04PM +0100, Jiri Pirko wrote: > >> Thu, Mar 02, 2023 at 02:04:48PM CET, mst@redhat.com wrote: > >> > >> [...] > >> > >> > >> > admin: introduce device group and related concepts > >> > admin: introduce group administration commands > >> > admin: introduce virtio admin virtqueues > >> > >> The ordering seems a bit odd to me. I think that at the beginning, the > >> admin virtqueue should be introduced with generic concepts (including > >> the generic command structure), only after that the section introducing > >> device group stuff and related commands. > > > >That's intentional. > > > >Jason is working on additional ways to pass commands to > >devices, using memory mapped registers. > > > >Thus admin commands stand by themselves, and the queue is > >just a way to issue them. > > Okay, in that case, woudnlt it make sense if the generic CMD text > (including the generic command structure) would go first, then the > "group" related cmds? > there are not other commands though - they are all group related. > > > > > > > >> This publicly archived list offers a means to provide input to the > >> OASIS Virtual I/O Device (VIRTIO) TC. > >> > >> In order to verify user consent to the Feedback License terms and > >> to minimize spam in the list archive, subscription is required > >> before posting. > >> > >> Subscribe: virtio-comment-subscribe@lists.oasis-open.org > >> Unsubscribe: virtio-comment-unsubscribe@lists.oasis-open.org > >> List help: virtio-comment-help@lists.oasis-open.org > >> List archive: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/virtio-comment/ > >> Feedback License: https://www.oasis-open.org/who/ipr/feedback_license.pdf > >> List Guidelines: https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/mailing-lists > >> Committee: https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/virtio/ > >> Join OASIS: https://www.oasis-open.org/join/ > > This publicly archived list offers a means to provide input to the OASIS Virtual I/O Device (VIRTIO) TC. 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Tsirkin" To: Jiri Pirko Cc: virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org, virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org, jasowang@redhat.com, cohuck@redhat.com, sgarzare@redhat.com, stefanha@redhat.com, nrupal.jani@intel.com, Piotr.Uminski@intel.com, hang.yuan@intel.com, virtio@lists.oasis-open.org, Zhu Lingshan , pasic@linux.ibm.com, Shahaf Shuler , Parav Pandit , Max Gurtovoy Message-ID: <20230307121455-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> References: <20230306174654-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: X-Mimecast-Spam-Score: 0 X-Mimecast-Originator: redhat.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Subject: [virtio-dev] Re: [virtio-comment] [PATCH v10 00/10] Introduce device group and device management On Tue, Mar 07, 2023 at 08:17:03AM +0100, Jiri Pirko wrote: > Mon, Mar 06, 2023 at 11:48:32PM CET, mst@redhat.com wrote: > >On Mon, Mar 06, 2023 at 05:40:04PM +0100, Jiri Pirko wrote: > >> Thu, Mar 02, 2023 at 02:04:48PM CET, mst@redhat.com wrote: > >> > >> [...] > >> > >> > >> > admin: introduce device group and related concepts > >> > admin: introduce group administration commands > >> > admin: introduce virtio admin virtqueues > >> > >> The ordering seems a bit odd to me. I think that at the beginning, the > >> admin virtqueue should be introduced with generic concepts (including > >> the generic command structure), only after that the section introducing > >> device group stuff and related commands. > > > >That's intentional. > > > >Jason is working on additional ways to pass commands to > >devices, using memory mapped registers. > > > >Thus admin commands stand by themselves, and the queue is > >just a way to issue them. > > Okay, in that case, woudnlt it make sense if the generic CMD text > (including the generic command structure) would go first, then the > "group" related cmds? > there are not other commands though - they are all group related. > > > > > > > >> This publicly archived list offers a means to provide input to the > >> OASIS Virtual I/O Device (VIRTIO) TC. > >> > >> In order to verify user consent to the Feedback License terms and > >> to minimize spam in the list archive, subscription is required > >> before posting. > >> > >> Subscribe: virtio-comment-subscribe@lists.oasis-open.org > >> Unsubscribe: virtio-comment-unsubscribe@lists.oasis-open.org > >> List help: virtio-comment-help@lists.oasis-open.org > >> List archive: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/virtio-comment/ > >> Feedback License: https://www.oasis-open.org/who/ipr/feedback_license.pdf > >> List Guidelines: https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/mailing-lists > >> Committee: https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/virtio/ > >> Join OASIS: https://www.oasis-open.org/join/ > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: virtio-dev-unsubscribe@lists.oasis-open.org For additional commands, e-mail: virtio-dev-help@lists.oasis-open.org