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From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
To: Felix Fietkau <nbd@nbd.name>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next] net/core: add optional threading for backlog processing
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2023 10:47:33 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230324104733.571466bc@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2d251879-1cf4-237d-8e62-c42bb4feb047@nbd.name>

On Fri, 24 Mar 2023 18:35:00 +0100 Felix Fietkau wrote:
> I'm primarily testing this on routers with 2 or 4 CPUs and limited 
> processing power, handling routing/NAT. RPS is typically needed to 
> properly distribute the load across all available CPUs. When there is 
> only a small number of flows that are pushing a lot of traffic, a static 
> RPS assignment often leaves some CPUs idle, whereas others become a 
> bottleneck by being fully loaded. Threaded NAPI reduces this a bit, but 
> CPUs can become bottlenecked and fully loaded by a NAPI thread alone.

The NAPI thread becomes a bottleneck with RPS enabled?

> Making backlog processing threaded helps split up the processing work 
> even more and distribute it onto remaining idle CPUs.

You'd want to have both threaded NAPI and threaded backlog enabled?

> It can basically be used to make RPS a bit more dynamic and 
> configurable, because you can assign multiple backlog threads to a set 
> of CPUs and selectively steer packets from specific devices / rx queues 

Can you give an example?

With the 4 CPU example, in case 2 queues are very busy - you're trying
to make sure that the RPS does not end up landing on the same CPU as
the other busy queue?

> to them and allow the scheduler to take care of the rest.

You trust the scheduler much more than I do, I think :)

  reply	other threads:[~2023-03-24 17:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-24 17:13 [PATCH net-next] net/core: add optional threading for backlog processing Felix Fietkau
2023-03-24 17:20 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-03-24 17:35   ` Felix Fietkau
2023-03-24 17:47     ` Jakub Kicinski [this message]
2023-03-24 17:57       ` Felix Fietkau
2023-03-25  3:19         ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-03-25  5:42           ` Felix Fietkau
2023-03-28  2:06             ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-03-28  9:46               ` Felix Fietkau
2023-03-28  9:29         ` Paolo Abeni
2023-03-28  9:45           ` Felix Fietkau
2023-03-28 15:13             ` Paolo Abeni
2023-03-28 15:21               ` Felix Fietkau
2023-03-29 16:14     ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer

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