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From: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
To: Sergey Senozhatsky <senozhatsky@chromium.org>
Cc: Nhat Pham <nphamcs@gmail.com>, Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, ngupta@vflare.org,
	sjenning@redhat.com, ddstreet@ieee.org, vitaly.wool@konsulko.com,
	kernel-team@meta.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] zsmalloc: move LRU update from zs_map_object() to zs_malloc()
Date: Tue, 9 May 2023 13:44:01 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230509174401.GA18828@cmpxchg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230509030030.GD11511@google.com>

On Tue, May 09, 2023 at 12:00:30PM +0900, Sergey Senozhatsky wrote:
> On (23/05/08 09:00), Nhat Pham wrote:
> > > The deeper bug here is that zs_map_object() tries to add the page to
> > > the LRU list while the shrinker has it isolated for reclaim. This is
> > > way too sutble and error prone. Even if it worked now, it'll cause
> > > corruption issues down the line.
> > >
> > > For example, Nhat is adding a secondary entry point to reclaim.
> > > Reclaim expects that a page that's on the LRU is also on the fullness
> > > list, so this would lead to a double remove_zspage() and BUG_ON().
> > >
> > > This patch doesn't just fix the crash, it eliminates the deeper LRU
> > > isolation issue and makes the code more robust and simple.
> > 
> > I agree. IMO, less unnecessary concurrent interaction is always a
> > win for developers' and maintainers' cognitive load.
> 
> Thanks for all the explanations.
> 
> > As a side benefit - this also gets rid of the inelegant check
> > (mm == ZS_MM_WO). The fact that we had to include a
> > a multi-paragraph explanation for a 3-line piece of code
> > should have been a red flag.
> 
> Minchan had some strong opinion on that, so we need to hear from him
> before we decide how do we fix it.

I'd be happy if he could validate the fix. But this fixes a crash, so
the clock is ticking.

I will also say, his was a design preference. One we agreed to only
very reluctantly: https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/Y3f6habiVuV9LMcu@google.com/

Now we have a crash that is a direct result of it, and which cost us
(and apparently is still costing us) time and energy to resolve.

Unless somebody surfaces a real technical problem with the fix, I'd
say let's do it our way this time.


  reply	other threads:[~2023-05-09 17:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-05-05 18:50 [PATCH] zsmalloc: move LRU update from zs_map_object() to zs_malloc() Nhat Pham
2023-05-05 19:14 ` Andrew Morton
2023-05-05 19:26   ` Nhat Pham
2023-05-05 19:29   ` Johannes Weiner
2023-05-06  3:01 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2023-05-08 14:06   ` Johannes Weiner
2023-05-08 16:00     ` Nhat Pham
2023-05-09  3:00       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2023-05-09 17:44         ` Johannes Weiner [this message]
2023-05-09 18:20           ` Minchan Kim
2023-05-09 19:24             ` Johannes Weiner
2023-05-09 22:04               ` Nhat Pham
2023-05-10  0:39 ` Sergey Senozhatsky

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