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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Parav Pandit <parav@nvidia.com>
Cc: virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org, shahafs@nvidia.com,
	virtio@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: Re: [virtio-comment] [PATCH requirements 2/7] net-features: Add low latency transmit queue requirements
Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2023 18:25:49 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230606181535-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230601220305.587034-3-parav@nvidia.com>

On Fri, Jun 02, 2023 at 01:03:00AM +0300, Parav Pandit wrote:
> Add requirements for the low latency transmit queue.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Parav Pandit <parav@nvidia.com>
> ---
>  net-workstream/features-1.4.md | 73 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>  1 file changed, 73 insertions(+)
> 
> diff --git a/net-workstream/features-1.4.md b/net-workstream/features-1.4.md
> index 03b4eb3..55f1b1f 100644
> --- a/net-workstream/features-1.4.md
> +++ b/net-workstream/features-1.4.md
> @@ -7,6 +7,7 @@ together is desired while updating the virtio net interface.
>  
>  # 2. Summary
>  1. Device counters visible to the driver
> +2. Low latency tx virtqueue for PCI transport
>  
>  # 3. Requirements
>  ## 3.1 Device counters
> @@ -34,3 +35,75 @@ together is desired while updating the virtio net interface.
>     descriptors
>  2. le64 tx_gso_pkts: Packets send as host GSO sequence
>  3. le64 tx_pkts: Total packets send by the device
> +
> +## 3.2 Low PCI latency virtqueues
> +### 3.2.1 Low PCI latency tx virtqueue
> +1. Packet transmit descriptor should contain data descriptors count without any
> +   indirection and without any O(N) search to find the end of a packet stream.
> +   For example, a packet transmit descriptor (called vnet_tx_hdr_desc
> +   subsequently) to contain a field num_next_desc for the packet stream
> +   indicating that a packet is located N data descriptors.
> +
> +2. Packet transmit descriptor should contain segmentation offload-related fields
> +   without any indirection. For example, packet transmit descriptor to contain
> +   gso_type, gso_size/mss, header length, csum placement byte offset, and
> +   csum start.
> +
> +3. Packet transmit descriptor should be able to place a small size packet that
> +   does not have any L4 data after the vnet_tx_hdr_desc in the virtqueue memory.
> +   For example a TCP ack only packet can fit in a descriptor memory which
> +   otherwise consume more than 25% of metadata to describe the packet.

For IPv6? With all the crazy options? Are you sure?

> +
> +4. Packet transmit descriptor should be able to place a full GSO header (L2 to
> +   L4) after header descriptor and before data descriptors. For example, the
> +   GSO header is placed after struct vnet_tx_hdr_desc in the virtqueue memory.
> +   When such a GSO header is positioned adjacent to the packet transmit
> +   descriptor, and when the GSO header is not aligned to 16B, the following
> +   data descriptor to start on the 8B aligned boundary.
> +

These alignments are weirdly specific.


Are these achievable with existing VQ designs? If not this specific part
is not going to be a network specific thing. which is ok but maybe
mention this.

> +5. An example of the above requirements at high level is:
> +
> +```
> +struct vitio_packed_q_desc {
> +   /* current desc for reference */
> +   u64 address;
> +   u32 len;
> +   u16 id;
> +   u16 flags;
> +};
> +
> +/* Constant size header descriptor for tx packets */
> +struct vnet_tx_hdr_desc {
> +   u16 flags; /* indicate how to parse next fields */
> +   u16 id; /* desc id to come back in completion */
> +   u8 num_next_desc; /* indicates the number of the next 16B data desc for this
> +		      * buffer.
> +		      */
> +   u8 gso_type;
> +   le16 gso_hdr_len;
> +   le16 gso_size;
> +   le16 csum_start;
> +   le16 csum_offset;
> +   u8 inline_pkt_len; /* indicates the length of the inline packet after this
> +		       * desc
> +		       */
> +   u8 reserved;
> +   u8 padding[];
> +};
> +
> +/* Example of a short packet or GSO header placed in the desc section of the vq
> + */
> +struct vnet_tx_small_pkt_desc {
> +   u8 raw_pkt[128];
> +};
> +
> +/* Example of header followed by data descriptor */
> +struct vnet_tx_hdr_desc hdr_desc;
> +struct vnet_data_desc desc[2];
> +
> +```

Seems to assume huge descriptors, apparently of variable size.
Are fixed size descriptors valuable?



> +6. Ability to zero pad the transmit completion when the transmit completion is
> + shorter than the CPU cache line size.
> +
> +7. Ability to place all transmit completion together with it per packet stream
> +   transmit timestamp using single PCIe transcation.

I can't decipher the last two ones. Part of it is using non virtio
terminology, part referring to PCI/CPU unnecessarily, part
weird grammar.

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  reply	other threads:[~2023-06-06 22:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-06-01 22:02 [virtio-comment] [PATCH requirements 0/7] virtio net new features requirements Parav Pandit
2023-06-01 22:02 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH requirements 1/7] net-features: Add requirements document for release 1.4 Parav Pandit
2023-06-06 22:15   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-06 22:28     ` Parav Pandit
2023-06-06 22:56       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-06 23:08         ` Parav Pandit
2023-06-06 23:18           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-07  9:03             ` [virtio-comment] Re: [virtio] " Xuan Zhuo
2023-06-07 20:35           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-07 20:39             ` Parav Pandit
2023-06-07 20:50               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-07 20:53                 ` Parav Pandit
2023-06-07  9:31   ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-06-01 22:03 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH requirements 2/7] net-features: Add low latency transmit queue requirements Parav Pandit
2023-06-06 22:25   ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2023-06-06 22:35     ` Parav Pandit
2023-06-01 22:03 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH requirements 3/7] net-features: Add low latency receive " Parav Pandit
2023-06-06 22:33   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-06 22:44     ` Parav Pandit
2023-06-06 23:03       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-01 22:03 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH requirements 4/7] net-features: Add notification coalescing requirements Parav Pandit
2023-06-06 22:36   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-06 22:46     ` Parav Pandit
2023-06-06 23:06       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-01 22:03 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH requirements 5/7] net-features: Add n-tuple receive flow steering requirements Parav Pandit
2023-06-02  3:35   ` Heng Qi
2023-06-02  3:51     ` Parav Pandit
2023-06-02  4:39       ` [virtio-comment] Re: [virtio] " Heng Qi
2023-06-06 12:08         ` Heng Qi
2023-06-06 21:49           ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-06-12 14:35             ` [virtio-comment] " Heng Qi
2023-06-12 17:26               ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-06-13  2:28                 ` Heng Qi
2023-06-13  8:57                 ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-13  9:16                   ` Cornelia Huck
2023-06-13 11:33                   ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-06-07  2:47   ` Jason Wang
2023-06-07  3:22     ` Parav Pandit
2023-06-13  2:57   ` [virtio-comment] Re: [virtio] " Heng Qi
2023-06-13  4:16     ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-06-13  5:04       ` [virtio-comment] " Heng Qi
2023-06-13 12:24         ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-06-14  3:43           ` [virtio-comment] " Heng Qi
2023-06-14  3:48             ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-06-14  3:53               ` Heng Qi
2023-06-01 22:03 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH requirements 6/7] net-features: Add packet timestamp requirements Parav Pandit
2023-06-06 22:40   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-06 22:51     ` Parav Pandit
2023-06-06 23:08       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-01 22:03 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH requirements 7/7] net-features: Add header data split requirements Parav Pandit
2023-06-06 22:41   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-08 14:57     ` Parav Pandit
2023-06-02  3:06 ` [virtio-comment] Re: [virtio] [PATCH requirements 0/7] virtio net new features requirements Heng Qi
2023-06-06 22:49 ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-06 22:56   ` Parav Pandit
2023-06-06 23:10     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-07  2:49 ` Jason Wang
2023-06-07  3:33   ` Parav Pandit
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2023-07-24  3:34 Parav Pandit
2023-07-24  3:34 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH requirements 2/7] net-features: Add low latency transmit queue requirements Parav Pandit
2023-08-08  8:24   ` David Edmondson
2023-08-14 11:55   ` David Edmondson

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