From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A76BEB64D8 for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2023 17:00:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1345935AbjFPRAu (ORCPT ); Fri, 16 Jun 2023 13:00:50 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:42532 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1346328AbjFPRAS (ORCPT ); Fri, 16 Jun 2023 13:00:18 -0400 Received: from relay9-d.mail.gandi.net (relay9-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.199]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B212A3596 for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2023 09:59:09 -0700 (PDT) X-GND-Sasl: miquel.raynal@bootlin.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bootlin.com; s=gm1; t=1686934748; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=2Pg0XuDgLFN/BwT4f28YkKD1PxgA7At/HyEnsuhSmTg=; b=LicYLH/4xpSYAncPrkvE96hdUBeIShvfpfLPkcHO1ByyrWnHwHTQBuQiEUUxfw8tr4kDzM lvlBLTcvh0P9NT79cO6imIzI9698NYpBdFEr97Ega3swNmJNBDwBo+bDiIpzN3QCHfO+Nm SWXtWeryzYV4ywuxxiuXRho4C+GCocWiffej1euUQV2hrPVHXoFEJh+xg7/F1q/h20LEpr x9ksb6Fh5x1p+Izn+Y3nJy16aLUd1AMGwip8n7sCaA0OtsRBcxHd8XYe/xJIcQRKDGDtcR 7UR7AK2mb28vkxvd9grAXfkN50m5alXjwyda18Lgzch6oKp1SHSDcErF15LdCw== X-GND-Sasl: miquel.raynal@bootlin.com X-GND-Sasl: miquel.raynal@bootlin.com X-GND-Sasl: miquel.raynal@bootlin.com X-GND-Sasl: miquel.raynal@bootlin.com X-GND-Sasl: miquel.raynal@bootlin.com X-GND-Sasl: miquel.raynal@bootlin.com X-GND-Sasl: miquel.raynal@bootlin.com Received: by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 58B33FF805; Fri, 16 Jun 2023 16:59:07 +0000 (UTC) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2023 18:59:06 +0200 From: Miquel Raynal To: Mark Brown Cc: Tudor Ambarus , linux-spi@vger.kernel.org, Nicolas Ferre , Alexandre Belloni , Claudiu Beznea , linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, Thomas Petazzoni Subject: Re: [PATCH] spi: atmel: Prevent false timeouts on long transfers Message-ID: <20230616185906.04c4a869@xps-13> In-Reply-To: <4054360c-b942-4761-a03f-e4d50a328ec0@sirena.org.uk> References: <20230616141225.2790073-1-miquel.raynal@bootlin.com> <89439569-4fc3-4f5e-9392-4ed92ecb62e5@sirena.org.uk> <20230616181535.032bf9de@xps-13> <4054360c-b942-4761-a03f-e4d50a328ec0@sirena.org.uk> Organization: Bootlin X-Mailer: Claws Mail 4.0.0 (GTK+ 3.24.33; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-spi@vger.kernel.org Hi Mark, broonie@kernel.org wrote on Fri, 16 Jun 2023 17:43:06 +0100: > On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 06:15:35PM +0200, Miquel Raynal wrote: > > broonie@kernel.org wrote on Fri, 16 Jun 2023 15:20:27 +0100: =20 >=20 > > > On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 04:12:25PM +0200, Miquel Raynal wrote: =20 >=20 > > > > -#define SPI_DMA_TIMEOUT (msecs_to_jiffies(1000)) > > > > +#define SPI_DMA_MIN_TIMEOUT (msecs_to_jiffies(1000)) > > > > +#define SPI_DMA_TIMEOUT_PER_10K (msecs_to_jiffies(4)) =20 >=20 > > > Given that we know the bus speed can't we just calculate this like ot= her > > > drivers do (we should probably add a helper TBH)? =20 >=20 > > I agree we should probably have some kind of easy-to-use helper to > > derive a decent timeout value. How do sound the heuristics > > proposed here to you ? That would be: =20 >=20 > > timeout =3D 1s + 4ms/10k =20 >=20 > Like I say we should know the transfer speed so we can do better than > 4ms/10k - we know how long it takes to clock out each byte, we can just > multiply that by the size of the transfer then add some fudge factor for > setup/teardown overhead. 1s feels pretty generous too. The sun6i > driver for example does=20 >=20 > max(tfr->len * 8 * 2 / (tfr->speed_hz / 1000), 100U) >=20 > and just doubles the length based timeout with a minimum of 100ms which > seems reasonable. I already had issues with ~0.1s timeouts on NAND controllers, just because the machine was heavily loaded. I believe we should avoid too small timeouts, it does not make sense and make things worse under load. I'll have a look. 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