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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Marek Szyprowski <m.szyprowski@samsung.com>,
	Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, iommu@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [PATCH] dma: DMA_ATTR_SKIP_CPU_SYNC documentation tweaks
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2023 02:21:05 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230720021914-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230720060742.GA2987@lst.de>

On Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 08:07:42AM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 19, 2023 at 06:15:59AM -0400, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > A recent patchset highlighted to me that DMA_ATTR_SKIP_CPU_SYNC
> > might be easily misunderstood.
> 
> .. just curious: what patchset is that?  DMA_ATTR_SKIP_CPU_SYNC is
> often a bad idea and all users probably could use a really good
> audit..

Message-Id: <20230710034237.12391-1-xuanzhuo@linux.alibaba.com>


Looks like there's really little else can be done: there's a
shared page we allow DMA into, so we sync periodically.
Then when we unmap we really do not need that data
synced again.

What exactly is wrong with this?


> >  #define DMA_ATTR_NO_KERNEL_MAPPING	(1UL << 4)
> >  /*
> > - * DMA_ATTR_SKIP_CPU_SYNC: Allows platform code to skip synchronization of
> > - * the CPU cache for the given buffer assuming that it has been already
> > - * transferred to 'device' domain.
> > + * DMA_ATTR_SKIP_CPU_SYNC: Allows platform code to skip synchronization of the
> > + * CPU and device domains for the given buffer.
> 
> While we're at it, I think "allows" is the wrong word here, we really
> must skip the synchronization or else we're in trouble.

Hmm could you explain? I thought multiple sync operations are harmless.

-- 
MST


  reply	other threads:[~2023-07-20  6:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-07-19 10:15 [PATCH] dma: DMA_ATTR_SKIP_CPU_SYNC documentation tweaks Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-07-20  6:07 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-07-20  6:21   ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2023-07-20  6:25     ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-07-20  6:30       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-07-20  6:34         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-07-20  6:43         ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-07-20  7:06           ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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