From: Alexandre Belloni <alexandre.belloni@bootlin.com>
To: Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>
Cc: Alessandro Zummo <a.zummo@towertech.it>,
Benson Leung <bleung@chromium.org>,
Miquel Raynal <miquel.raynal@bootlin.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
John Stultz <jstultz@google.com>, Stephen Boyd <sboyd@kernel.org>,
linux-rtc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Brian Norris <briannorris@chromium.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/7] rtc: Add support for limited alarm timer offsets
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2023 17:03:53 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230816150353137debc5@mail.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230816133936.2150294-1-linux@roeck-us.net>
Hello,
On 16/08/2023 06:39:29-0700, Guenter Roeck wrote:
> Some alarm timers are based on time offsets, not on absolute times.
> In some situations, the amount of time that can be scheduled in the
> future is limited. This may result in a refusal to suspend the system,
> causing substantial battery drain.
>
> This problem was previously observed on a Chromebook using the cros_ec
> rtc driver. EC variants on some older Chromebooks only support 24 hours
> of alarm time in the future. To work around the problem on affected
> Chromebooks, code to limit the maximum alarm time was added to the cros_ec
> rtc driver with commit f27efee66370 ("rtc: cros-ec: Limit RTC alarm range
> if needed"). The problem is now seen again on a system using the cmos
> RTC driver on hardware limited to 24 hours of alarm time, so a more
> generic solution is needed.
>
> Some RTC drivers remedy the situation by setting the alarm time to the
> maximum supported time if a request for an out-of-range timeout is made.
> This is not really desirable since it may result in unexpected early
> wakeups. It would be even more undesirable to change the behavior
> of existing widely used drivers such as the cmos RTC driver.
>
> The existing range_max variable in struct rtc_device can not be used
> to determine the maximum time offset supported by an rtc chip since
> it describes the maximum absolute time supported by the chip, not the
> maximum time offset that can be set for alarms.
>
> To reduce the impact of this problem, introduce a new variable
> rtc_time_offset in struct rtc_device to let RTC drivers report the maximum
> supported alarm time offset. The code setting alarm timers can then
> decide if it wants to reject setting alarm timers to a larger value, if it
> wants to implement recurring alarms until the actually requested alarm
> time is met, or if it wants to accept the limited alarm time. Use the new
> variable to limit the alarm timer range.
>
> The series is intended to solve the problem with minimal changes in the
> rtc core and in affected drivers.
>
> An alternative I had considered was to have the alarmtimer code guess the
> maximum timeout supported by the rtc hardware. I discarded it as less
> desirable since it had to retry repeatedly depending on rtc limitations.
> This often resulted in error messages by the rtc driver. On top of that,
> it was all but impossible to support rtc chips such as tps6586x which
> can only support wake alarms up to 16,383 seconds in the future.
>
> The first patch of the series adds support for providing the maximum
> supported time offset to the rtc core. The second patch uses that value
> in the alarmtimer code to set the maximum wake-up time from system suspend.
> Subsequent patches add support for reporting the maximum alarm timer offset
> to a subset of affected drivers.
>
> Previous discussion:
> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/Y19AdIntJZGnBh%2Fy@google.com/T/#mc06d206d5bdb77c613712148818934b4f5640de5
>
I'm fine with the series, however, this doesn't solve the issue for RTCs
that have an absolute limit on the alarm (as opposed to an offset to the
current time/date).
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> Guenter Roeck (7):
> rtc: Add support for limited alarm timer offsets
> rtc: alarmtimer: Use maximum alarm time offset
> rtc: cros-ec: Detect and report supported alarm window size
> rtc: cmos: Report supported alarm limit to rtc infrastructure
> rtc: tps6586x: Report maximum alarm limit to rtc core
> rtc: ds1305: Report maximum alarm limit to rtc core
> rtc: rzn1: Report maximum alarm limit to rtc core
>
> drivers/rtc/rtc-cmos.c | 11 +++++++++++
> drivers/rtc/rtc-cros-ec.c | 38 +++++++++++++++++++++++---------------
> drivers/rtc/rtc-ds1305.c | 3 ++-
> drivers/rtc/rtc-rzn1.c | 1 +
> drivers/rtc/rtc-tps6586x.c | 1 +
> include/linux/rtc.h | 1 +
> kernel/time/alarmtimer.c | 13 +++++++++++++
> 7 files changed, 52 insertions(+), 16 deletions(-)
--
Alexandre Belloni, co-owner and COO, Bootlin
Embedded Linux and Kernel engineering
https://bootlin.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-08-16 15:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-08-16 13:39 [PATCH 0/7] rtc: Add support for limited alarm timer offsets Guenter Roeck
2023-08-16 13:39 ` [PATCH 1/7] " Guenter Roeck
2023-08-16 14:57 ` Alexandre Belloni
2023-08-16 15:24 ` Guenter Roeck
2023-08-16 16:19 ` Alexandre Belloni
2023-08-16 19:12 ` Guenter Roeck
2023-08-16 13:39 ` [PATCH 2/7] rtc: alarmtimer: Use maximum alarm time offset Guenter Roeck
2023-08-16 13:39 ` [PATCH 3/7] rtc: cros-ec: Detect and report supported alarm window size Guenter Roeck
2023-08-16 13:39 ` [PATCH 4/7] rtc: cmos: Report supported alarm limit to rtc infrastructure Guenter Roeck
2023-08-16 13:39 ` [PATCH 5/7] rtc: tps6586x: Report maximum alarm limit to rtc core Guenter Roeck
2023-08-16 13:39 ` [PATCH 6/7] rtc: ds1305: " Guenter Roeck
2023-08-16 13:39 ` [PATCH 7/7] rtc: rzn1: " Guenter Roeck
2023-08-17 8:03 ` Miquel Raynal
2023-08-17 13:43 ` Guenter Roeck
2023-08-16 15:03 ` Alexandre Belloni [this message]
2023-08-16 15:50 ` [PATCH 0/7] rtc: Add support for limited alarm timer offsets Guenter Roeck
2023-08-16 16:14 ` Alexandre Belloni
2023-08-16 19:12 ` Guenter Roeck
2023-08-17 19:51 ` Alexandre Belloni
2023-08-17 22:36 ` Guenter Roeck
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