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From: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: "Masami Hiramatsu (Google)" <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
	Song Liu <song@kernel.org>,
	Francis Laniel <flaniel@linux.microsoft.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v1 1/1] tracing/kprobe: Add multi-probe support for 'perf_kprobe' PMU
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2023 11:07:58 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <202308211106.D2D2887@keescook> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230821104550.57d60a75@gandalf.local.home>

On Mon, Aug 21, 2023 at 10:45:50AM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Aug 2023 19:01:52 +0900
> Masami Hiramatsu (Google) <mhiramat@kernel.org> wrote:
> 
> > > kprobe BPF program has access to pt_regs, so it can read ip of the
> > > attached function. Can we do the same with regular kprobe (no bpf)?  
> > 
> > Yes, it can. So I think it is OK to expand CAP_PERFMON to access kallsyms.
> > But this means CAP_PERMON itself is not safe in some case.
> 
> What are the privileges that CAP_PERFMON gives. I can see why Kees told me
> to avoid capabilities when looking at what has access to tracefs. Because
> it becomes very difficult to know what the privileges you are giving when
> you give out a capability. I just stick to normal ACL (file permissions)
> and everything is much easier and simpler to know what has access to what.

At the very least, having a fd-based "handle" for access work. But yeah,
capabilities get ugly quickly.

Anyway... what does CAP_PERFMON have access to right now? If it is
allowed to read arbitrary kernel memory, then resolving symbols is fine.
If it doesn't, then no, it shouldn't: it becomes a oracle for probing
symbol locations.

-- 
Kees Cook

  reply	other threads:[~2023-08-21 18:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20230816163517.112518-1-flaniel@linux.microsoft.com>
2023-08-16 16:35 ` [RFC PATCH v1 1/1] tracing/kprobe: Add multi-probe support for 'perf_kprobe' PMU Francis Laniel
2023-08-16 18:42   ` Steven Rostedt
2023-08-17 10:59     ` Francis Laniel
2023-08-17 15:13       ` Steven Rostedt
2023-08-18  9:01         ` Francis Laniel
2023-08-18 12:37         ` Masami Hiramatsu
2023-08-18 15:41           ` Steven Rostedt
2023-08-18 18:13             ` Francis Laniel
2023-08-18 18:20               ` Steven Rostedt
2023-08-19  1:15                 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2023-08-19 15:22                   ` Song Liu
2023-08-20  9:32                     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2023-08-20 10:02                       ` Song Liu
2023-08-20 13:16                         ` Masami Hiramatsu
2023-08-21  6:09                           ` Song Liu
2023-08-21 10:01                             ` Masami Hiramatsu
2023-08-21 14:45                               ` Steven Rostedt
2023-08-21 18:07                                 ` Kees Cook [this message]
2023-08-21 14:29                         ` Steven Rostedt
2023-08-21 15:19                           ` Masami Hiramatsu
2023-08-21 15:28                             ` Steven Rostedt
2023-08-17  7:50   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2023-08-17 11:06     ` Francis Laniel
2023-08-18 13:05       ` Masami Hiramatsu
2023-08-18 18:12         ` Francis Laniel
2023-08-19  1:11           ` Masami Hiramatsu
2023-08-20 20:23             ` Jiri Olsa
2023-08-21 12:22               ` Francis Laniel
2023-08-20 20:34             ` Jiri Olsa
2023-08-21 12:24               ` Francis Laniel
2023-08-22 13:13                 ` Jiri Olsa
2023-08-21 12:55             ` Francis Laniel
2023-08-23  0:36               ` Masami Hiramatsu
2023-08-23  9:54                 ` Francis Laniel
2023-08-23 13:45                   ` Masami Hiramatsu

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