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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
To: Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>
Cc: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>,
	Yan Zhao <yan.y.zhao@intel.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	pbonzini@redhat.com, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Marek Szyprowski <m.szyprowski@samsung.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] KVM: x86/mmu: .change_pte() optimization in TDP MMU
Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2023 10:18:48 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230908081848.GD8240@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5d81a9cd-f96d-bcdb-7878-74c2ead26cfb@arm.com>

On Wed, Sep 06, 2023 at 05:18:51PM +0100, Robin Murphy wrote:
> Indeed a bunch of work has gone into SWIOTLB recently trying to make it a 
> bit more efficient for such cases where it can't be avoided, so it is 
> definitely still interesting to learn about impacts at other levels like 
> this. Maybe there's a bit of a get-out for confidential VMs though, since 
> presumably there's not much point COW-ing encrypted private memory, so 
> perhaps KVM might end up wanting to optimise that out and thus happen to 
> end up less sensitive to unavoidable SWIOTLB behaviour anyway?

Well, the fix for bounce buffering is to trust the device, and there is
a lot of work going into device authentication and attesttion right now
so that will happen.

On the swiotlb side a new version of the dma_sync_*_device APIs that
specifies the mapping len and the data length transfer would avoid
some of the overhead here.  We've decided that it is a good idea last
time, but so far no one has volunteers to implement it.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-09-08  8:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-08  8:50 [PATCH 0/2] KVM: x86/mmu: .change_pte() optimization in TDP MMU Yan Zhao
2023-08-08  8:53 ` [PATCH 1/2] KVM: x86/mmu: Remove dead code in .change_pte() handler in x86 " Yan Zhao
2023-08-08  8:54 ` [PATCH 2/2] KVM: x86/mmu: prefetch SPTE directly in x86 TDP MMU's change_pte() handler Yan Zhao
2023-08-16 18:18 ` [PATCH 0/2] KVM: x86/mmu: .change_pte() optimization in TDP MMU Sean Christopherson
2023-08-17  0:00   ` Yan Zhao
2023-08-17 17:53     ` Sean Christopherson
2023-08-18 10:17       ` Yan Zhao
2023-08-18 13:46         ` Sean Christopherson
2023-09-04  7:03         ` Yan Zhao
2023-09-05 18:59           ` Sean Christopherson
2023-09-05 19:30             ` Linus Torvalds
2023-09-06  0:29             ` Robin Murphy
2023-09-06 14:44               ` Sean Christopherson
2023-09-06 16:18                 ` Robin Murphy
2023-09-06 16:46                   ` Sean Christopherson
2023-09-08  8:18                   ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2023-09-05 20:18           ` Sean Christopherson
2023-09-06  1:51             ` Yan Zhao
2023-09-06 22:17             ` Paolo Bonzini
2023-09-07  0:51               ` Sean Christopherson
2023-09-07  0:36                 ` Yan Zhao

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