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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: "Cédric Le Goater" <clg@redhat.com>
Cc: "Duan, Zhenzhong" <zhenzhong.duan@intel.com>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"alex.williamson@redhat.com" <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	"nicolinc@nvidia.com" <nicolinc@nvidia.com>,
	"Martins, Joao" <joao.m.martins@oracle.com>,
	"eric.auger@redhat.com" <eric.auger@redhat.com>,
	"peterx@redhat.com" <peterx@redhat.com>,
	"jasowang@redhat.com" <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	"Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
	"Liu, Yi L" <yi.l.liu@intel.com>,
	"Sun, Yi Y" <yi.y.sun@intel.com>,
	"Peng, Chao P" <chao.p.peng@intel.com>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Marc-André Lureau" <marcandre.lureau@redhat.com>,
	"Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>,
	"Thomas Huth" <thuth@redhat.com>,
	"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 15/22] Add iommufd configure option
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2023 09:51:03 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230920125103.GS13733@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <664d3338-c280-6d16-b03e-bb235931ce99@redhat.com>

On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 02:19:42PM +0200, Cédric Le Goater wrote:
> On 9/20/23 05:42, Duan, Zhenzhong wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Cédric Le Goater <clg@redhat.com>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 1:08 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 15/22] Add iommufd configure option
> > > 
> > > On 8/30/23 12:37, Zhenzhong Duan wrote:
> > > > This adds "--enable-iommufd/--disable-iommufd" to enable or disable
> > > > iommufd support, enabled by default.
> > > 
> > > Why would someone want to disable support at compile time ? It might
> > 
> > For those users who only want to support legacy container feature?
> > Let me know if you still prefer to drop this patch, I'm fine with that.
> 
> I think it is too early.
> 
> > > have been useful for dev but now QEMU should self-adjust at runtime
> > > depending only on the host capabilities AFAIUI. Am I missing something ?
> > 
> > IOMMUFD doesn't support all features of legacy container, so QEMU
> > doesn't self-adjust at runtime by checking if host supports IOMMUFD.
> > We need to specify it explicitly to use IOMMUFD as below:
> > 
> >      -object iommufd,id=iommufd0
> >      -device vfio-pci,host=0000:02:00.0,iommufd=iommufd0
> 
> OK. I am not sure this is the correct interface yet. At first glance,
> I wouldn't introduce a new object for a simple backend depending on a
> kernel interface. I would tend to prefer a "iommu-something" property
> of the vfio-pci device with string values: "legacy", "iommufd", "default"
> and define the various interfaces (the ops you proposed) for each
> depending on the user preference and the capabilities of the host and
> possibly the device.

I think the idea came from Alex? The major point is to be able to have
libvirt open /dev/iommufd and FD pass it into qemu and then share that
single FD across all VFIOs. qemu will typically not be able to
self-open /dev/iommufd as it is root-only.

So the object is not exactly for the backend, the object is for the
file descriptor.

Adding a legacy/iommufd option to the vfio-pci device string doesn't
address these needs.

Jason


  reply	other threads:[~2023-09-20 12:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 109+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-30 10:37 [PATCH v1 00/22] vfio: Adopt iommufd Zhenzhong Duan
2023-08-30 10:37 ` [PATCH v1 01/22] scripts/update-linux-headers: Add iommufd.h Zhenzhong Duan
2023-08-30 10:37 ` [PATCH v1 02/22] Update linux-header to support iommufd cdev and hwpt alloc Zhenzhong Duan
2023-09-14 14:46   ` Eric Auger
2023-09-15  3:02     ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-09-20 11:04       ` Eric Auger
2023-09-20 11:15         ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-08-30 10:37 ` [PATCH v1 03/22] vfio/common: Move IOMMU agnostic helpers to a separate file Zhenzhong Duan
2023-08-30 10:37 ` [PATCH v1 04/22] vfio/common: Introduce vfio_container_add|del_section_window() Zhenzhong Duan
2023-09-20 11:23   ` Eric Auger
2023-09-20 12:18     ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-09-21  8:28   ` Cédric Le Goater
2023-09-21 10:14     ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-09-21 10:55       ` Cédric Le Goater
2023-09-27  2:08       ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-09-27  6:50         ` Cédric Le Goater
2023-08-30 10:37 ` [PATCH v1 05/22] vfio/common: Extract out vfio_kvm_device_[add/del]_fd Zhenzhong Duan
2023-09-20 11:49   ` Eric Auger
2023-09-21  2:04     ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-09-21  8:42     ` Cédric Le Goater
2023-09-21 10:22       ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-09-21 10:53         ` Cédric Le Goater
2023-09-20 21:39   ` Alex Williamson
2023-09-21  6:03     ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-08-30 10:37 ` [PATCH v1 06/22] vfio/common: Add a vfio device iterator Zhenzhong Duan
2023-09-20 12:25   ` Eric Auger
2023-09-21  2:27     ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-09-20 22:16   ` Alex Williamson
2023-09-21  2:16     ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-08-30 10:37 ` [PATCH v1 07/22] vfio/common: Refactor vfio_viommu_preset() to be group agnostic Zhenzhong Duan
2023-09-20 13:00   ` Eric Auger
2023-09-21  2:52     ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-09-20 22:51   ` Alex Williamson
2023-09-21  6:13     ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-08-30 10:37 ` [PATCH v1 08/22] vfio/common: Move legacy VFIO backend code into separate container.c Zhenzhong Duan
2023-09-20 13:12   ` Eric Auger
2023-09-21  3:02     ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-08-30 10:37 ` [PATCH v1 09/22] vfio/container: Introduce vfio_[attach/detach]_device Zhenzhong Duan
2023-09-20 13:33   ` Eric Auger
2023-09-21  3:08     ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-09-21  9:44   ` Cédric Le Goater
2023-09-21 10:26     ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-08-30 10:37 ` [PATCH v1 10/22] vfio/platform: Use vfio_[attach/detach]_device Zhenzhong Duan
2023-09-21 12:17   ` Cédric Le Goater
2023-08-30 10:37 ` [PATCH v1 11/22] vfio/ap: " Zhenzhong Duan
2023-08-30 10:37 ` [PATCH v1 12/22] vfio/ccw: " Zhenzhong Duan
2023-09-21 12:19   ` Cédric Le Goater
2023-09-21 13:00     ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-09-21 13:24       ` Cédric Le Goater
2023-08-30 10:37 ` [PATCH v1 13/22] vfio: Add base container Zhenzhong Duan
2023-09-19 17:23   ` Cédric Le Goater
2023-09-20  8:48     ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-09-20 12:57       ` Cédric Le Goater
2023-09-20 13:58         ` Eric Auger
2023-09-21  2:51         ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-09-20 13:53     ` Eric Auger
2023-09-21  3:12       ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-09-20 17:31     ` Eric Auger
2023-09-21  3:35       ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-09-21  6:28         ` Eric Auger
2023-09-21 17:20         ` Eric Auger
2023-09-22  2:52           ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-08-30 10:37 ` [PATCH v1 14/22] vfio/common: Simplify vfio_viommu_preset() Zhenzhong Duan
2023-09-19 16:01   ` Cédric Le Goater
2023-09-20  2:59     ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-08-30 10:37 ` [PATCH v1 15/22] Add iommufd configure option Zhenzhong Duan
2023-09-19 17:07   ` Cédric Le Goater
2023-09-20  3:42     ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-09-20 12:19       ` Cédric Le Goater
2023-09-20 12:51         ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2023-09-20 13:01           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-09-20 13:07             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-09-20 13:02           ` Cédric Le Goater
2023-09-20 17:37             ` Eric Auger
2023-09-20 17:49               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-09-20 18:17                 ` Alex Williamson
2023-09-20 18:19                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-09-21  3:43                     ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-09-26  6:05                     ` Tian, Kevin
2023-09-21  4:00             ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-09-21  2:11         ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-09-20 18:01       ` Alex Williamson
2023-09-20 18:12         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-09-20 20:29           ` Alex Williamson
2023-09-20 18:15         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-08-30 10:37 ` [PATCH v1 16/22] backends/iommufd: Introduce the iommufd object Zhenzhong Duan
2023-09-22  7:15   ` Cédric Le Goater
2023-09-22  8:39     ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-08-30 10:37 ` [PATCH v1 17/22] util/char_dev: Add open_cdev() Zhenzhong Duan
2023-09-20 12:39   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-09-20 12:53     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-09-20 12:56       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-09-21  2:37     ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-08-30 10:37 ` [PATCH v1 18/22] vfio/iommufd: Implement the iommufd backend Zhenzhong Duan
2023-08-30 10:37 ` [PATCH v1 19/22] vfio/iommufd: Add vfio device iterator callback for iommufd Zhenzhong Duan
2023-08-30 10:37 ` [PATCH v1 20/22] vfio/pci: Adapt vfio pci hot reset support with iommufd BE Zhenzhong Duan
2023-08-30 10:37 ` [PATCH v1 21/22] vfio/pci: Allow the selection of a given iommu backend Zhenzhong Duan
2023-09-06 18:10   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-09-06 19:09     ` Alex Williamson
2023-09-07  1:10       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-09-07  2:27         ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-08-30 10:37 ` [PATCH v1 22/22] vfio/pci: Make vfio cdev pre-openable by passing a file handle Zhenzhong Duan
2023-09-14  9:04 ` [PATCH v1 00/22] vfio: Adopt iommufd Eric Auger
2023-09-14  9:27   ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-09-15 12:42 ` Cédric Le Goater
2023-09-15 13:14   ` Duan, Zhenzhong
2023-09-18 11:51   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-09-18 12:23     ` Cédric Le Goater
2023-09-18 17:56       ` Jason Gunthorpe

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