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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: "Deucher, Alexander" <Alexander.Deucher@amd.com>
Cc: "Hegde, Vasant" <Vasant.Hegde@amd.com>,
	"iommu@lists.linux.dev" <iommu@lists.linux.dev>,
	"joro@8bytes.org" <joro@8bytes.org>,
	"Suthikulpanit, Suravee" <Suravee.Suthikulpanit@amd.com>,
	"Huang2, Wei" <Wei.Huang2@amd.com>,
	"jsnitsel@redhat.com" <jsnitsel@redhat.com>,
	"Kuehling, Felix" <Felix.Kuehling@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/5] iommu/amd: Remove iommu_v2 module
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2023 13:31:54 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230921163154.GO13733@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BL1PR12MB51449627A11B2BDA55B97C8CF7F8A@BL1PR12MB5144.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>

On Thu, Sep 21, 2023 at 03:15:42PM +0000, Deucher, Alexander wrote:
> > > Does this patch or the following patches make any functional changes
> > > for devices?  E.g., devices which supported ATS would have been put
> > > into an identity mapping mode previously Is that still retained?
> >
> > Huh? Why would we ever want to do that?
> >
> > Policy for the default domain belongs in the iommu subsystem except in
> > extreme cases, the AMD driver should not be doing random things like forcing
> > identity for ATS capable PCI devices.
> 
> I'm just concerned about regressions in random devices due to a
> change in policy in the IOMMU driver.  Previously the IOMMU driver
> would put ATS compatible devices into 1:1 mode.  Also some of the
> earlier integrated GPUs require 1:1 mapping for display from system
> memory due to hardware limitations.  There were also a lot of sbios
> bugs in the carrizo/raven timeframe because windows didn't enable
> the IOMMU so lots of OEMs had bogus IOMMU ACPI tables which didn't
> cause problems when 1:1 mode was used.

That is a fair concern.

But we need to root those out and fix them as narrow quirks. We don't
want a driver to have blanket ATS == identity configuration, it will
harm other legitimate applications.

eg if you want to narrowly quirk integrated GPUs and carrizo/raven
that would be great.

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2023-09-21 16:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-21  9:31 [PATCH v3 0/5] iommu/amd: SVA Support (part 2) - deprecate iommu_v2 module Vasant Hegde
2023-09-21  9:31 ` [PATCH v3 1/5] iommu/amd: Remove " Vasant Hegde
2023-09-21 14:05   ` Deucher, Alexander
2023-09-21 14:14     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-09-21 15:15       ` Deucher, Alexander
2023-09-21 16:31         ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2023-09-22  2:23           ` Baolu Lu
2023-09-22  8:52             ` Vasant Hegde
2023-09-22 12:00               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-09-25 15:11                 ` Vasant Hegde
2023-09-25 15:57                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-09-25 16:31                   ` Deucher, Alexander
2023-09-25 16:37                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-09-22 11:59             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-09-22 12:13               ` Baolu Lu
2023-09-22 12:18                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-09-22 12:42                   ` Baolu Lu
2023-09-22 12:43                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-09-25  9:04                   ` joro
2023-09-25 15:40                     ` Vasant Hegde
2023-09-28 14:52                     ` Deucher, Alexander
2023-10-05 11:29                       ` Vasant Hegde
2023-10-06 15:19                         ` Deucher, Alexander
2023-09-22 18:08                 ` Deucher, Alexander
2023-09-22 18:15           ` Deucher, Alexander
2023-09-22  6:45         ` Vasant Hegde
2023-09-22 18:13           ` Deucher, Alexander
2023-09-25 15:30             ` Vasant Hegde
2023-09-21  9:31 ` [PATCH v3 2/5] iommu/amd: Remove PPR support Vasant Hegde
2023-09-21  9:31 ` [PATCH v3 3/5] iommu/amd: Remove amd_iommu_device_info() Vasant Hegde
2023-09-21  9:31 ` [PATCH v3 4/5] iommu/amd: Remove unused EXPORT_SYMBOLS Vasant Hegde
2023-09-21  9:31 ` [PATCH v3 5/5] Revert "iommu: Fix false ownership failure on AMD systems with PASID activated" Vasant Hegde
2023-10-02  6:32 ` [PATCH v3 0/5] iommu/amd: SVA Support (part 2) - deprecate iommu_v2 module Joerg Roedel
2023-10-05 11:30   ` Vasant Hegde

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