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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: Yishai Hadas <yishaih@nvidia.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, maorg@nvidia.com,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org, jiri@nvidia.com,
	leonro@nvidia.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH vfio 10/11] vfio/virtio: Expose admin commands over virtio device
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2023 10:18:17 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230927131817.GA338226@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230926072538-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>

On Tue, Sep 26, 2023 at 07:41:44AM -0400, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:

> > By the way, this follows what was done already between vfio/mlx5 to
> > mlx5_core modules where mlx5_core exposes generic APIs to execute a command
> > and to get the a PF from a given mlx5 VF.
> 
> This is up to mlx5 maintainers. In particular they only need to worry
> that their patches work with specific hardware which they likely have.
> virtio has to work with multiple vendors - hardware and software -
> and exposing a low level API that I can't test on my laptop
> is not at all my ideal.

mlx5 has a reasonable API from the lower level that allows the vfio
driver to safely issue commands. The API provides all the safety and
locking you have been questioning here.

Then the vfio driver can form the commands directly and in the way it
needs. This avoids spewing code into the core modules that is only
used by vfio - which has been a key design consideration for our
driver layering.

I suggest following the same design here as it has been well proven.
Provide a solid API to operate the admin queue and let VFIO use
it. One of the main purposes of the admin queue is to deliver commands
on behalf of the VF driver, so this is a logical and reasonable place
to put an API.

> > This way, we can enable further commands to be added/extended
> > easily/cleanly.
> 
> Something for vfio maintainer to consider in case it was
> assumed that it's just this one weird thing
> but otherwise it's all generic vfio. It's not going to stop there,
> will it? The duplication of functionality with vdpa will continue :(

VFIO live migration is expected to come as well once OASIS completes
its work.

Parav, are there other things?

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2023-09-27 13:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 321+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-21 12:40 [PATCH vfio 00/11] Introduce a vfio driver over virtio devices Yishai Hadas via Virtualization
2023-09-21 12:40 ` Yishai Hadas
2023-09-21 12:40 ` [PATCH vfio 01/11] virtio-pci: Use virtio pci device layer vq info instead of generic one Yishai Hadas via Virtualization
2023-09-21 12:40   ` Yishai Hadas
2023-09-21 13:46   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-21 13:46     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-26 19:13     ` Feng Liu via Virtualization
2023-09-26 19:13       ` Feng Liu
2023-09-27 18:09       ` Feng Liu via Virtualization
2023-09-27 18:09         ` Feng Liu
2023-09-27 21:24         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-27 21:24           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-21 12:40 ` [PATCH vfio 02/11] virtio: Define feature bit for administration virtqueue Yishai Hadas via Virtualization
2023-09-21 12:40   ` Yishai Hadas
2023-09-21 12:40 ` [PATCH vfio 03/11] virtio-pci: Introduce admin virtqueue Yishai Hadas via Virtualization
2023-09-21 12:40   ` Yishai Hadas
2023-09-21 13:57   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-21 13:57     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-26 19:23     ` Feng Liu via Virtualization
2023-09-26 19:23       ` Feng Liu
2023-09-27 18:12       ` Feng Liu via Virtualization
2023-09-27 18:12         ` Feng Liu
2023-09-27 21:27         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-27 21:27           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-02 18:07           ` Feng Liu via Virtualization
2023-10-02 18:07             ` Feng Liu
2023-09-21 12:40 ` [PATCH vfio 04/11] virtio: Expose the synchronous command helper function Yishai Hadas via Virtualization
2023-09-21 12:40   ` Yishai Hadas
2023-09-21 12:40 ` [PATCH vfio 05/11] virtio-pci: Introduce admin command sending function Yishai Hadas via Virtualization
2023-09-21 12:40   ` Yishai Hadas
2023-09-21 12:40 ` [PATCH vfio 06/11] virtio-pci: Introduce API to get PF virtio device from VF PCI device Yishai Hadas via Virtualization
2023-09-21 12:40   ` Yishai Hadas
2023-09-21 12:40 ` [PATCH vfio 07/11] virtio-pci: Introduce admin commands Yishai Hadas via Virtualization
2023-09-21 12:40   ` Yishai Hadas
2023-09-24  5:18   ` kernel test robot
2023-09-24  5:18     ` kernel test robot
2023-09-25  3:18   ` kernel test robot
2023-09-25  3:18     ` kernel test robot
2023-09-21 12:40 ` [PATCH vfio 08/11] vfio/pci: Expose vfio_pci_core_setup_barmap() Yishai Hadas via Virtualization
2023-09-21 12:40   ` Yishai Hadas
2023-09-21 16:35   ` Alex Williamson
2023-09-21 16:35     ` Alex Williamson
2023-09-26  9:45     ` Yishai Hadas via Virtualization
2023-09-26  9:45       ` Yishai Hadas
2023-09-21 12:40 ` [PATCH vfio 09/11] vfio/pci: Expose vfio_pci_iowrite/read##size() Yishai Hadas via Virtualization
2023-09-21 12:40   ` Yishai Hadas
2023-09-21 12:40 ` [PATCH vfio 10/11] vfio/virtio: Expose admin commands over virtio device Yishai Hadas via Virtualization
2023-09-21 12:40   ` Yishai Hadas
2023-09-21 13:08   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-21 13:08     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-21 20:34   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-21 20:34     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-26 10:51     ` Yishai Hadas via Virtualization
2023-09-26 10:51       ` Yishai Hadas
2023-09-26 11:25       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-26 11:25         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-22  9:54   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-22  9:54     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-26 11:14     ` Yishai Hadas via Virtualization
2023-09-26 11:14       ` Yishai Hadas
2023-09-26 11:41       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-26 11:41         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-27 13:18         ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2023-09-27 21:30           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-27 21:30             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-27 23:16             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-09-28  5:26               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-28  5:26                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-02  6:28         ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-10-02  6:28           ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-10-02 15:13           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-10-05  8:49             ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-10-05  8:49               ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-10-05 11:10               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-10-06 13:09                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-10-06 13:09                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-10-10 13:10                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-10-10 13:56                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-10 13:56                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-10 14:08                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-10-10 14:54                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-10 14:54                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-10 15:09                           ` Yishai Hadas via Virtualization
2023-10-10 15:09                             ` Yishai Hadas
2023-10-10 15:14                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-10 15:14                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-10 15:43                               ` Yishai Hadas via Virtualization
2023-10-10 15:43                                 ` Yishai Hadas
2023-10-10 15:58                                 ` Parav Pandit via Virtualization
2023-10-10 15:58                                   ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-10 15:58                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-10 15:58                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-10 16:09                                   ` Yishai Hadas via Virtualization
2023-10-10 16:09                                     ` Yishai Hadas
2023-10-10 20:42                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-10 20:42                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-11  7:44                                       ` Yishai Hadas via Virtualization
2023-10-11  7:44                                         ` Yishai Hadas
2023-10-11  8:02                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-11  8:02                                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-11  8:58                                           ` Yishai Hadas via Virtualization
2023-10-11  8:58                                             ` Yishai Hadas
2023-10-11  9:03                                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-11  9:03                                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-11 11:25                                               ` Yishai Hadas via Virtualization
2023-10-11 11:25                                                 ` Yishai Hadas
2023-10-11  6:12                                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-10-11  6:12                                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-10-10 15:59                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-10-10 16:03                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-10 16:03                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-10 16:07                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-10-10 16:21                                     ` Parav Pandit via Virtualization
2023-10-10 16:21                                       ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-10 20:38                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-10 20:38                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-11  6:13                                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-10-11  6:13                                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-10-11  6:43                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-11  6:43                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-11  6:59                                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-10-11  6:59                                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-10-11  8:00                                       ` Parav Pandit via Virtualization
2023-10-11  8:00                                         ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-11  8:10                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-11  8:10                                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-11 12:18                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-10-11 17:03                                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-11 17:03                                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-11 17:20                                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-10-11 17:05                                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-11 17:05                                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-12 10:29                                         ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-10-12 10:29                                           ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-10-12 13:27                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-10-13 10:28                                             ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-10-13 13:50                                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-13 13:50                                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-16  8:33                                                 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-10-16  8:33                                                   ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-10-16  8:52                                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-16  8:52                                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-16  9:53                                                     ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-10-16  9:53                                                       ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-10-11  8:12                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-11  8:12                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-12 10:30                                       ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-10-12 10:30                                         ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-10-11  6:26                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-10-11  6:26                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-10-11 13:57                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-10-11 14:17                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-10-11 14:17                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-10-11 14:58                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-10-11 16:59                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-11 16:59                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-11 17:19                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-10-11 20:20                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-11 20:20                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-21 12:40 ` [PATCH vfio 11/11] vfio/virtio: Introduce a vfio driver over virtio devices Yishai Hadas via Virtualization
2023-09-21 12:40   ` Yishai Hadas
2023-09-21 13:16   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-21 13:16     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-21 14:11     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-09-21 14:16       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-21 14:16         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-21 16:41         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-09-21 16:53           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-21 16:53             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-21 18:39             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-09-21 19:13               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-21 19:13                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-21 19:49                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-09-21 20:45                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-21 20:45                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-21 22:55                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-09-22  3:02                       ` Jason Wang
2023-09-22  3:02                         ` Jason Wang
2023-09-22 11:23                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-22 11:23                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-22 12:15                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-09-22  3:01                   ` Jason Wang
2023-09-22  3:01                     ` Jason Wang
2023-09-22 12:11                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-09-25  2:34                       ` Jason Wang
2023-09-25  2:34                         ` Jason Wang
2023-09-25 12:26                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-09-25 19:44                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-25 19:44                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-26  0:40                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-09-26  5:34                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-26  5:34                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-26  5:42                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-26  5:42                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-26 13:50                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-09-27 21:38                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-27 21:38                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-27 23:20                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-09-28  5:31                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-28  5:31                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-26  4:37                           ` Jason Wang
2023-09-26  4:37                             ` Jason Wang
2023-09-26  5:33                             ` Parav Pandit via Virtualization
2023-09-26  5:33                               ` Parav Pandit
2023-09-21 19:17               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-21 19:17                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-21 19:51                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-09-21 20:55                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-21 20:55                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-21 23:08                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-09-25  4:44                     ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-09-25  4:44                       ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-09-22  3:45               ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-09-22  3:45                 ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-09-21 13:33   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-21 13:33     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-21 16:43   ` Alex Williamson
2023-09-21 16:43     ` Alex Williamson
2023-09-21 16:52     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-09-21 17:01       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-21 17:01         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-21 17:07         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-09-21 17:21           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-21 17:21             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-21 17:44             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-09-21 17:55               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-21 17:55                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-21 18:16                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-09-21 19:34                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-21 19:34                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-21 19:53                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-09-21 20:16                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-21 20:16                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-21 22:48                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-09-22  9:47                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-22  9:47                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-22 12:23                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-09-22 15:45                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-22 15:45                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-22  3:02                         ` Jason Wang
2023-09-22  3:02                           ` Jason Wang
2023-09-22 12:22                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-09-22 12:25                             ` Parav Pandit via Virtualization
2023-09-22 12:25                               ` Parav Pandit
2023-09-22 15:13                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-22 15:13                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-22 15:15                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-09-22 15:40                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-22 15:40                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-22 16:22                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-09-25 17:36                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-25 17:36                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-25  2:30                               ` Jason Wang
2023-09-25  2:30                                 ` Jason Wang
2023-09-25  8:26                                 ` Parav Pandit via Virtualization
2023-09-25  8:26                                   ` Parav Pandit
2023-09-25 18:36                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-25 18:36                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-26  2:34                                     ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-09-26  2:34                                       ` Zhu, Lingshan
2023-09-26  3:45                                     ` Parav Pandit via Virtualization
2023-09-26  3:45                                       ` Parav Pandit
2023-09-26  4:37                                       ` Jason Wang
2023-09-26  4:37                                         ` Jason Wang
2023-10-12 10:52                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-12 10:52                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-12 11:11                                         ` Parav Pandit via Virtualization
2023-10-12 11:11                                           ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-12 11:30                                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-12 11:30                                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-12 11:40                                             ` Parav Pandit via Virtualization
2023-10-12 11:40                                               ` Parav Pandit
2023-09-26  2:32                                   ` Jason Wang
2023-09-26  2:32                                     ` Jason Wang
2023-09-26  4:01                                     ` Parav Pandit via Virtualization
2023-09-26  4:01                                       ` Parav Pandit
2023-09-26  4:37                                       ` Jason Wang
2023-09-26  4:37                                         ` Jason Wang
2023-09-26  5:27                                         ` Parav Pandit via Virtualization
2023-09-26  5:27                                           ` Parav Pandit
2023-09-26 11:49                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-26 11:49                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-08  4:28                                       ` Jason Wang
2023-10-08  4:28                                         ` Jason Wang
2023-09-22  3:02                       ` Jason Wang
2023-09-22  3:02                         ` Jason Wang
2023-09-22 12:25                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-09-22 15:39                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-22 15:39                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-22 16:19                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-09-25 18:16                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-25 18:16                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-25 18:53                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-09-25 19:52                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-25 19:52                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-21 17:09         ` Parav Pandit via Virtualization
2023-09-21 17:09           ` Parav Pandit
2023-09-21 17:24           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-21 17:24             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-21 19:58   ` Alex Williamson
2023-09-21 19:58     ` Alex Williamson
2023-09-21 20:01     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-09-21 20:20       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-21 20:20         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-21 20:59         ` Alex Williamson
2023-09-21 20:59           ` Alex Williamson
2023-09-22 12:37     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-09-22 12:59       ` Parav Pandit via Virtualization
2023-09-22 12:59         ` Parav Pandit
2023-09-26 15:20     ` Yishai Hadas via Virtualization
2023-09-26 15:20       ` Yishai Hadas
2023-09-26 17:00       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-26 17:00         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-02  4:38         ` Parav Pandit via Virtualization
2023-10-02  4:38           ` Parav Pandit
2023-09-22 10:10   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-22 10:10     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-22 15:53   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-09-22 15:53     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-02 11:23     ` Parav Pandit via Virtualization
2023-10-02 11:23       ` Parav Pandit

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