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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>
Cc: Parav Pandit <parav@nvidia.com>,
	"virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org"
	<virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org>,
	"hengqi@linux.alibaba.com" <hengqi@linux.alibaba.com>,
	"xuanzhuo@linux.alibaba.com" <xuanzhuo@linux.alibaba.com>,
	Shahaf Shuler <shahafs@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [virtio-comment] RE: [PATCH v3 2/2] content: Support enabling virtqueue after DRIVER_OK stage
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2023 07:12:16 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20231018071144-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87pm1cchuq.fsf@redhat.com>

On Wed, Oct 18, 2023 at 01:03:57PM +0200, Cornelia Huck wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 18 2023, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, Oct 18, 2023 at 12:25:23PM +0200, Cornelia Huck wrote:
> >> On Tue, Oct 17 2023, Parav Pandit <parav@nvidia.com> wrote:
> >> 
> >> >> From: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>
> >> >> Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2023 5:55 PM
> >> >> 
> >> >> On Mon, Oct 02 2023, Parav Pandit <parav@nvidia.com> wrote:
> >> >> > +When VIRTIO_F_RING_DYNAMIC is not negotiated, the driver MUST enable
> >> >> > +the required number of virtqueues before setting the DRIVER_OK status bit.
> >> >> 
> >> >> What does "required" mean here? It just chooses to enable the queues it wants
> >> >> to use, right?
> >> > Right.
> >> > Required meaning, whatever number of queues that driver choose to enable, those must be enabled before driver_ok.
> >> > So it is "required by the driver".
> >> > Would that be ok?
> >> 
> >> I'd write it as "the driver MUST enable any virtqueue it plans to use"
> >> or something like that.
> >> 
> >> (...)
> >
> > It would have to be SHOULD - we can't add new MUST requirements not
> > contingent on a feature bit, we can give recommendation based on
> > existing installed base.
> 
> Then I wonder whether we need to add any normative statement at all --
> prior to the introduction of this new feature, the driver had to enable
> anything it wanted to use before DRIVER_OK, and if it does not negotiate
> the new feature, nothing changes. Spelling that out in non-normative
> sections should be enough?

I think it's not a bad thing to be clearer, but I don't care much.

-- 
MST


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  reply	other threads:[~2023-10-18 11:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-02  5:15 [virtio-comment] [PATCH v3 0/2] Support enabling virtqueue after DRIVER_OK Parav Pandit
2023-10-02  5:16 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH v3 1/2] conformance: Add missing virtqueue reset conformance references Parav Pandit
2023-10-05 16:53   ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-10-02  5:16 ` [virtio-comment] [PATCH v3 2/2] content: Support enabling virtqueue after DRIVER_OK stage Parav Pandit
2023-10-05 16:53   ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-10-12  6:39   ` [virtio-comment] " Xuan Zhuo
2023-10-17 12:25   ` Cornelia Huck
2023-10-17 12:48     ` [virtio-comment] " Parav Pandit
2023-10-18 10:25       ` Cornelia Huck
2023-10-18 10:28         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-18 11:03           ` Cornelia Huck
2023-10-18 11:12             ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2023-10-18 11:12             ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-19 13:57               ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-23 13:29                 ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-23 13:57                   ` Cornelia Huck
2023-10-23 14:00                     ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-23 14:27                       ` Cornelia Huck
2023-10-23 14:53                         ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-23 15:01                           ` Cornelia Huck
2023-10-23 15:21                             ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-25  9:55                               ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-25 10:18                                 ` Cornelia Huck
2023-10-25 10:20                                   ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-25 10:24                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-26  3:30                                   ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-26  5:39                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-26  6:02                                       ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-26  6:24                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-26  6:47                                           ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-26  8:27                                         ` Eugenio Perez Martin
2023-10-26  8:38                                           ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-26  9:15                                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-26  9:24                                               ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-26  9:27                                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-26  9:45                                                   ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-27 10:13                                                     ` Cornelia Huck
2023-10-27 10:28                                                       ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-27 11:46                                                         ` Cornelia Huck
2023-10-27 11:55                                                           ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-26  9:18                                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-26  9:22                                               ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-26  9:26                                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-02  5:20 ` [virtio-comment] RE: [PATCH v3 0/2] Support enabling virtqueue after DRIVER_OK Parav Pandit
2023-10-10  4:57   ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-16 16:30     ` Parav Pandit
2023-10-17 11:58       ` Cornelia Huck
2023-10-17 12:50         ` Parav Pandit

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