From: Pekka Paalanen <ppaalanen@gmail.com>
To: Harry Wentland <harry.wentland@amd.com>
Cc: "Sebastian Wick" <sebastian.wick@redhat.com>,
"Shashank Sharma" <shashank.sharma@amd.com>,
"Xaver Hugl" <xaver.hugl@gmail.com>,
dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
wayland-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
"Melissa Wen" <mwen@igalia.com>,
"Jonas Ådahl" <jadahl@redhat.com>,
"Uma Shankar" <uma.shankar@intel.com>,
"Michel Dänzer" <mdaenzer@redhat.com>,
"Victoria Brekenfeld" <victoria@system76.com>,
"Aleix Pol" <aleixpol@kde.org>,
"Naseer Ahmed" <quic_naseer@quicinc.com>,
"Christopher Braga" <quic_cbraga@quicinc.com>,
"Joshua Ashton" <joshua@froggi.es>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 01/10] drm/doc/rfc: Describe why prescriptive color pipeline is needed
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2023 13:36:58 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20231020133658.4cff9f42@eldfell> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c80abc42-3197-4476-b33d-88c795b2e55c@amd.com>
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On Thu, 19 Oct 2023 10:56:40 -0400
Harry Wentland <harry.wentland@amd.com> wrote:
> On 2023-10-10 12:13, Melissa Wen wrote:
> > O 09/08, Harry Wentland wrote:
> >> Signed-off-by: Harry Wentland <harry.wentland@amd.com>
...
> > Also, with this new plane API in place, I understand that we will
> > already need think on how to deal with the mixing between old drm color
> > properties (color encoding and color range) and these new way of setting
> > plane color properties. IIUC, Pekka asked a related question about it
> > when talking about CRTC automatic RGB->YUV (?)
> >
>
> We'll still need to confirm whether we'll want to deprecate these
> existing properties. If we do that we'd want a client prop. Things
> should still work without deprecating them, if drivers just pick up
> after the initial encoding and range CSC.
>
> But realistically it might be better to deprecate them and turn them
> into explicit colorops.
The existing properties would need to be explicitly reflected in the
new pipelines anyway, otherwise there would always be doubt at which
point of a pipeline the old properties apply, and they might even
need to change positions between pipelines.
I think it is simply easier to just hide all old color related
properties when userspace sets the client-cap to enable pipelines. The
problem is to make sure to hide all old properties on all drivers that
support the client-cap.
As a pipeline must be complete (describe everything that happens to
pixel values), it's going to be a flag day per driver.
Btw. the plane FB YUV->RGB conversion needs a colorop in every pipeline
as well. Maybe it's purely informative and non-configurable, keyed by
FB pixel format, but still.
We also need a colorop to represent sample filtering, e.g. bilinear,
like I think Sebastian may have mentioned in the past. Everything
before the sample filter happens "per tap" as Joshua Ashton put it, and
everything after it happens on the sample that was computed as a
weighted average of the filter tap inputs (texels).
There could be colorops other than sample filtering that operate on
more than one sample at a time, like blur or sharpness. There could
even be colorops that change the image size like adding padding that
the following colorop hardware requires, and then yet another colorop
that clips that padding away. For an example, see
https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/dri-devel/2023-October/427015.html
If that padding and its color can affect the pipeline results of the
pixels near the padding (e.g. some convolution is applied with them,
which may be the reason why padding is necessary to begin with), then
it would be best to model it.
Thanks,
pq
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-10-20 10:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-09-08 15:02 [RFC PATCH 00/10] Color Pipeline API w/ VKMS Harry Wentland
2023-09-08 15:02 ` [RFC PATCH 01/10] drm/doc/rfc: Describe why prescriptive color pipeline is needed Harry Wentland
2023-09-08 19:30 ` Sebastian Wick
2023-09-08 20:38 ` Harry Wentland
2023-09-13 11:53 ` Pekka Paalanen
2023-09-13 11:29 ` Pekka Paalanen
2023-10-19 14:56 ` Harry Wentland
2023-10-20 10:17 ` Pekka Paalanen
2023-11-06 16:24 ` Harry Wentland
2023-11-07 9:38 ` Pekka Paalanen
2023-11-07 15:39 ` Harry Wentland
2023-10-10 16:13 ` Melissa Wen
2023-10-11 10:20 ` Pekka Paalanen
2023-10-11 19:12 ` Sebastian Wick
2023-10-19 14:56 ` Harry Wentland
2023-10-20 10:36 ` Pekka Paalanen [this message]
2023-11-06 16:19 ` Harry Wentland
2023-11-07 9:55 ` Pekka Paalanen
2023-11-07 16:58 ` Harry Wentland
2023-11-08 10:16 ` Pekka Paalanen
2023-11-08 11:40 ` Sebastian Wick
2023-11-08 14:31 ` Harry Wentland
2023-11-08 16:19 ` Pekka Paalanen
2023-11-08 16:27 ` Harry Wentland
2023-11-09 9:20 ` Pekka Paalanen
2023-11-10 20:27 ` Harry Wentland
2023-11-13 10:01 ` Pekka Paalanen
2023-09-08 15:02 ` [RFC PATCH 02/10] drm/colorop: Introduce new drm_colorop mode object Harry Wentland
2023-10-10 16:19 ` Melissa Wen
2023-10-19 15:01 ` Harry Wentland
2023-09-08 15:02 ` [RFC PATCH 03/10] drm/colorop: Add TYPE property Harry Wentland
2023-09-08 15:02 ` [RFC PATCH 04/10] drm/color: Add 1D Curve subtype Harry Wentland
2023-09-08 15:02 ` [RFC PATCH 05/10] drm/colorop: Add BYPASS property Harry Wentland
2023-09-08 15:02 ` [RFC PATCH 06/10] drm/colorop: Add NEXT property Harry Wentland
2023-09-08 15:02 ` [RFC PATCH 07/10] drm/colorop: Add atomic state print for drm_colorop Harry Wentland
2023-09-08 15:02 ` [RFC PATCH 08/10] drm/colorop: Add new IOCTLs to retrieve drm_colorop objects Harry Wentland
2023-09-08 15:02 ` [RFC PATCH 09/10] drm/plane: Add COLOR PIPELINE property Harry Wentland
2023-09-08 15:02 ` [RFC PATCH 10/10] drm/vkms: Add enumerated 1D curve colorop Harry Wentland
2023-10-10 16:27 ` Melissa Wen
2023-10-19 15:50 ` Harry Wentland
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