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From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
To: Jong eon Park <jongeon.park@samsung.com>,
	Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>
Cc: "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Dong ha Kang <dongha7.kang@samsung.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] netlink: introduce netlink poll to resolve fast return issue
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2023 15:48:12 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20231106154812.14c470c2@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20231103072209.1005409-1-jongeon.park@samsung.com>

On Fri,  3 Nov 2023 16:22:09 +0900 Jong eon Park wrote:
> In very rare cases, there was an issue where a user's poll function
> waiting for a uevent would continuously return very quickly, causing
> excessive CPU usage due to the following scenario.
> 
> Once sk_rcvbuf becomes full netlink_broadcast_deliver returns an error and
> netlink_overrun is called. However, if netlink_overrun was called in a
> context just before a another context returns from the poll and recv is
> invoked, emptying the rcvbuf, sk->sk_err = ENOBUF is written to the
> netlink socket belatedly and it enters the NETLINK_S_CONGESTED state.
> If the user does not check for POLLERR, they cannot consume and clean
> sk_err and repeatedly enter the situation where they call poll again but
> return immediately.
> 
> To address this issue, I would like to introduce the following netlink
> poll.
> 
> After calling the datagram_poll, netlink poll checks the
> NETLINK_S_CONGESTED status and rcv queue, and this make the user to be
> readable once more even if the user has already emptied rcv queue. This
> allows the user to be able to consume sk->sk_err value through
> netlink_recvmsg, thus the situation described above can be avoided

The explanation makes sense, but I'm not able to make the jump in
understanding how this is a netlink problem. datagram_poll() returns
EPOLLERR because sk_err is set, what makes netlink special?
The fact that we can have an sk_err with nothing in the recv queue?

Paolo understands this better, maybe he can weigh in tomorrow...

  reply	other threads:[~2023-11-06 23:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <CGME20231103072245epcas1p4471a31e9f579e38501c8c856d3ca2a77@epcas1p4.samsung.com>
2023-11-03  7:22 ` [PATCH] netlink: introduce netlink poll to resolve fast return issue Jong eon Park
2023-11-06 23:48   ` Jakub Kicinski [this message]
2023-11-07  2:05     ` Jong eon Park
2023-11-07 16:53       ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-10 14:54         ` Jong eon Park
2023-11-10 19:00           ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-13  3:50             ` Jong eon Park

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