From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
"Richard Henderson" <richard.henderson@linaro.org>,
"Alexander Graf" <agraf@csgraf.de>,
"Alex Bennée" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>,
"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
"Markus Armbruster" <armbru@redhat.com>,
"Phil Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@linaro.org>,
"Stefan Hajnoczi" <stefanha@redhat.com>,
"Thomas Huth" <thuth@redhat.com>, "Kevin Wolf" <kwolf@redhat.com>,
"Gerd Hoffmann" <kraxel@redhat.com>,
"Mark Cave-Ayland" <mark.cave-ayland@ilande.co.uk>,
"Peter Maydell" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] docs: define policy forbidding use of "AI" / LLM code generators
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2023 04:27:46 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20231124041343-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZWBngLoa3ERuMxGJ@redhat.com>
On Fri, Nov 24, 2023 at 09:06:29AM +0000, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 23, 2023 at 05:39:18PM -0500, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 23, 2023 at 05:58:45PM +0000, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> > > The license of a code generation tool itself is usually considered
> > > to be not a factor in the license of its output.
> >
> > Really? I would find it very surprising if a code generation tool that
> > is not a language model and so is not understanding the code it's
> > generating did not include some code snippets going into the output.
> > It is also possible to unintentionally run afoul of GPL's definition of source
> > code which is "the preferred form of the work for making modifications to it".
> > So even if you have copyright to input, dumping just output and putting
> > GPL on it might or might not be ok.
>
> Consider the C pre-processor. This takes an input .c file, and expands
> all the macros, to split out a new .c file.
>
> The license of the output .c file is determined by the license of the
> input .c file. The license of the CPP impl (whether OSS or proprietary)
> doesn't have any influence on the license of the output file, it cannot
> magically force the output file to be proprietary any more than it can
> force it to be output file GPL.
>
> With regards,
> Daniel
Sorry I don't get how is C preprocessor relevant here? It does not
generate source code in the GPL sense. We won't accept C preprocessor
output in a patch.
Not being a lawyer I personally am not really interested in discussing
how copyright works, certainly not at this highly abstract and
simplified level.
--
MST
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-11-24 9:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-11-23 11:40 [PATCH 0/2] docs: define policy forbidding use of "AI" / LLM code generators Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-11-23 11:40 ` [PATCH 1/2] docs: introduce dedicated page about code provenance / sign-off Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-11-23 11:58 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-11-23 17:08 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-11-23 23:56 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-23 13:01 ` Peter Maydell
2023-11-23 17:12 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-11-23 13:16 ` Kevin Wolf
2023-11-23 17:12 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-11-23 14:25 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-23 17:16 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-11-23 17:33 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-24 11:11 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-11-24 11:27 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-24 9:49 ` Kevin Wolf
2023-11-23 15:13 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2024-01-27 14:36 ` Zhao Liu
2024-01-29 9:31 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-01-29 9:35 ` Samuel Tardieu
2024-01-29 10:41 ` Peter Maydell
2024-01-29 11:00 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-11-23 11:40 ` [PATCH 2/2] docs: define policy forbidding use of "AI" / LLM code generators Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-11-23 12:57 ` Alex Bennée
2023-11-23 17:37 ` Michal Suchánek
2023-11-23 23:27 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-23 17:46 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-11-23 23:53 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-24 10:17 ` Kevin Wolf
2023-11-24 10:33 ` Alex Bennée
2023-11-24 10:42 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-24 10:43 ` Peter Maydell
2023-11-24 11:02 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-24 11:37 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-11-24 11:39 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-24 11:40 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-23 13:20 ` Kevin Wolf
2023-11-23 14:35 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-23 14:56 ` Manos Pitsidianakis
2023-11-23 15:13 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-23 15:29 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-11-23 17:06 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-23 17:29 ` Michal Suchánek
2023-11-23 18:05 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-23 15:32 ` Alex Bennée
2023-11-23 18:02 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-11-23 18:10 ` Peter Maydell
2023-11-24 10:25 ` Kevin Wolf
2023-11-24 10:37 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-24 10:42 ` Manos Pitsidianakis
2023-11-23 17:58 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-11-23 22:39 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-24 9:06 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-11-24 9:27 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2023-11-24 10:21 ` Alex Bennée
2023-11-24 10:30 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-24 11:41 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-11-23 15:22 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
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