From: Vladimir Oltean <vladimir.oltean@nxp.com>
To: "Köry Maincent" <kory.maincent@bootlin.com>
Cc: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
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Maxime Chevallier <maxime.chevallier@bootlin.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v7 15/16] net: ethtool: ts: Let the active time stamping layer be selectable
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2023 21:57:09 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20231124195709.wkhplnhtpxf75a6n@skbuf> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20231124183431.5d4cc189@kmaincent-XPS-13-7390>
On Fri, Nov 24, 2023 at 06:34:31PM +0100, Köry Maincent wrote:
> Would it break things if both ioctls and netlink can get and set the
> hwtstamps configuration?
Uhm, obviously? It would break things if ioctl and netlink were _not_
freely interchangeable, and you couldn't see in a ioctl GET what got set
through a netlink SET.
> It is only configuration. Both happen under rtnl_lock it should be
> alright.
Yeah, but you always need to keep the API interchangeability in mind
during the implementation.
> The question is which hwtstamp provider will the original ioctls be able to
> change? Maybe the default one (MAC with phy whitelist) and only this one.
TL;DR: yeah.
Remember one single rule and go from there: new development should not
change established setups. So SIOCSHWSTAMPs should continue to behave
"as before".
This is also the exact reason why I asked for the phy whitelist. The
introduction of CONFIG_NETWORK_PHY_TIMESTAMPING introduced exactly that:
a breaking change in the mode in which deployed setups operate.
> > But by all means, still hold a poll if you want to. I would vote for
> > ethtool netlink, not because it's great, just because I don't have a
> > better alternative to propose.
>
> If you agree on that choice, let's go. Jakub and your are the most proactive
> reviewers in this patch series. Willem you are the timestamping maintainer do
> you also agree on this?
> If anyone have another proposition let them speak now, or forever remain
> silent! ;)
Hmm, proactive means doing stuff in anticipation of being requested to
do it. I'd use the work "active" at most...
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-11-24 19:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-11-14 11:28 [PATCH net-next v7 00/16] net: Make timestamping selectable Kory Maincent
2023-11-14 11:28 ` [PATCH net-next v7 01/16] net: Convert PHYs hwtstamp callback to use kernel_hwtstamp_config Kory Maincent
2023-11-14 11:28 ` [PATCH net-next v7 02/16] net: phy: Remove the call to phy_mii_ioctl in phy_hwstamp_get/set Kory Maincent
2023-11-14 11:28 ` [PATCH net-next v7 03/16] net: ethtool: Refactor identical get_ts_info implementations Köry Maincent
2023-11-14 11:28 ` [PATCH net-next v7 04/16] net: macb: Convert to ndo_hwtstamp_get() and ndo_hwtstamp_set() Kory Maincent
2023-11-14 11:28 ` [PATCH net-next v7 05/16] net: Make dev_set_hwtstamp_phylib accessible Kory Maincent
2023-11-14 11:28 ` [PATCH net-next v7 06/16] net: phy: micrel: fix ts_info value in case of no phc Kory Maincent
2023-11-14 11:28 ` [PATCH net-next v7 07/16] net_tstamp: Add TIMESTAMPING SOFTWARE and HARDWARE mask Kory Maincent
2023-11-14 15:52 ` Willem de Bruijn
2023-11-19 2:22 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-20 9:05 ` Köry Maincent
2023-11-20 16:48 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-20 16:51 ` Willem de Bruijn
2023-11-14 11:28 ` [PATCH net-next v7 08/16] net: ethtool: Add a command to expose current time stamping layer Kory Maincent
2023-11-19 2:24 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-20 9:17 ` Köry Maincent
2023-11-20 10:40 ` Köry Maincent
2023-11-14 11:28 ` [PATCH net-next v7 09/16] netlink: specs: Introduce new netlink command to get current timestamp Kory Maincent
2023-11-19 2:25 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-14 11:28 ` [PATCH net-next v7 10/16] net: ethtool: Add a command to list available time stamping layers Kory Maincent
2023-11-19 2:26 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-14 11:28 ` [PATCH net-next v7 11/16] netlink: specs: Introduce new netlink " Kory Maincent
2023-11-14 11:28 ` [PATCH net-next v7 12/16] net: Replace hwtstamp_source by timestamping layer Kory Maincent
2023-11-14 11:28 ` [PATCH net-next v7 13/16] net: Change the API of PHY default timestamp to MAC Kory Maincent
2023-11-14 11:28 ` [PATCH net-next v7 14/16] net: ethtool: ts: Update GET_TS to reply the current selected timestamp Kory Maincent
2023-11-14 11:28 ` [PATCH net-next v7 15/16] net: ethtool: ts: Let the active time stamping layer be selectable Kory Maincent
2023-11-19 2:34 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-20 9:44 ` Köry Maincent
2023-11-20 10:52 ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-11-20 11:14 ` Köry Maincent
2023-11-20 12:06 ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-11-20 13:49 ` Köry Maincent
2023-11-20 14:23 ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-11-20 14:53 ` Köry Maincent
2023-11-20 16:10 ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-11-20 17:17 ` Köry Maincent
2023-11-20 17:37 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-20 18:39 ` Andrew Lunn
2023-11-20 18:51 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-20 19:58 ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-11-20 21:45 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-29 20:09 ` Köry Maincent
2023-11-29 20:37 ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-11-29 22:00 ` Köry Maincent
2023-11-29 23:56 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-30 0:06 ` Rahul Rameshbabu
2023-11-20 19:09 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-11-20 19:00 ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-11-20 19:58 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-20 21:17 ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-11-20 21:37 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-20 22:05 ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-11-21 17:31 ` Köry Maincent
2023-11-21 17:43 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-22 13:44 ` Köry Maincent
2023-11-22 14:08 ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-11-22 14:19 ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-11-22 14:36 ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-11-22 16:54 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-22 16:59 ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-11-22 17:55 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-22 18:11 ` Willem de Bruijn
2023-11-24 17:27 ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-11-24 19:45 ` Willem de Bruijn
2023-11-25 19:41 ` Richard Cochran
2023-11-22 14:57 ` Köry Maincent
2023-11-22 16:50 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-22 16:55 ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-11-22 18:01 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-23 15:00 ` Köry Maincent
2023-11-23 17:32 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-11-24 15:43 ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-11-24 17:34 ` Köry Maincent
2023-11-24 19:57 ` Vladimir Oltean [this message]
2023-11-24 20:47 ` Willem de Bruijn
2023-11-21 23:40 ` Richard Cochran
2023-11-14 11:28 ` [PATCH net-next v7 16/16] netlink: specs: Introduce time stamping set command Kory Maincent
2023-11-18 15:10 ` [PATCH net-next v7 00/16] net: Make timestamping selectable patchwork-bot+netdevbpf
2023-11-19 2:35 ` Jakub Kicinski
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