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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] locking: Document that mutex_unlock() is non-atomic
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2023 10:10:07 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20231201091007.GG3818@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20231130204817.2031407-1-jannh@google.com>

On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 09:48:17PM +0100, Jann Horn wrote:
> I have seen several cases of attempts to use mutex_unlock() to release an
> object such that the object can then be freed by another task.
> My understanding is that this is not safe because mutex_unlock(), in the
> MUTEX_FLAG_WAITERS && !MUTEX_FLAG_HANDOFF case, accesses the mutex
> structure after having marked it as unlocked; so mutex_unlock() requires
> its caller to ensure that the mutex stays alive until mutex_unlock()
> returns.
> 
> If MUTEX_FLAG_WAITERS is set and there are real waiters, those waiters
> have to keep the mutex alive, I think; but we could have a spurious
> MUTEX_FLAG_WAITERS left if an interruptible/killable waiter bailed
> between the points where __mutex_unlock_slowpath() did the cmpxchg
> reading the flags and where it acquired the wait_lock.
> 
> (With spinlocks, that kind of code pattern is allowed and, from what I
> remember, used in several places in the kernel.)
> 
> If my understanding of this is correct, we should probably document this -
> I think such a semantic difference between mutexes and spinlocks is fairly
> unintuitive.

IIRC this is true of all sleeping locks, and I think completion was the
explcicit exception here, but it's been a while.


> index 78540cd7f54b..087716bfa7b2 100644
> --- a/Documentation/locking/mutex-design.rst
> +++ b/Documentation/locking/mutex-design.rst
> @@ -101,6 +101,12 @@ features that make lock debugging easier and faster:
>      - Detects multi-task circular deadlocks and prints out all affected
>        locks and tasks (and only those tasks).
>  
> +Releasing a mutex is not an atomic operation: Once a mutex release operation

Well, it very much is an atomic store-release. That is, I object to your
confusing use of atomic here :-)

  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-12-01  9:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-30 20:48 [PATCH] locking: Document that mutex_unlock() is non-atomic Jann Horn
2023-11-30 21:53 ` Waiman Long
2023-11-30 22:24   ` Jann Horn
2023-11-30 23:56     ` Waiman Long
2023-12-01 10:33     ` [PATCH -v2] locking/mutex: " Ingo Molnar
2023-12-02  1:37       ` Bagas Sanjaya
2023-12-01 10:20   ` [PATCH] locking: " Ingo Molnar
2023-12-01  0:33 ` Waiman Long
2023-12-01 15:01   ` Jann Horn
     [not found]     ` <a9e19ad0-9a27-4885-a6ac-bebd3e997b02@redhat.com>
2023-12-01 16:03       ` Jann Horn
2023-12-01 18:12     ` David Laight
2023-12-01 18:18       ` Jann Horn
     [not found]         ` <1bcee696-d751-413c-a2ec-4a8480bae00b@redhat.com>
     [not found]           ` <780e652ff52044d4a213cacbd9276cf8@AcuMS.aculab.com>
2023-12-01 19:15             ` Waiman Long
2023-12-02 15:51               ` David Laight
2023-12-02 22:39                 ` Waiman Long
2023-12-01  9:10 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2023-12-01 15:58   ` Jann Horn
2023-12-01 10:44 ` [tip: locking/core] locking/mutex: " tip-bot2 for Jann Horn
2023-12-01 12:18   ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-01-08  8:45     ` [PATCH] locking/mutex: Clarify that mutex_unlock(), and most other sleeping locks, cannot be used to reference-count objects Ingo Molnar
2024-01-08  9:00       ` [PATCH -v2] locking/mutex: Clarify that mutex_unlock(), and most other sleeping locks, can still use the lock object after it's unlocked Ingo Molnar
2024-01-08 15:28       ` [PATCH] locking/mutex: Clarify that mutex_unlock(), and most other sleeping locks, cannot be used to reference-count objects Jann Horn
2024-01-08  9:01     ` [tip: locking/core] locking/mutex: Clarify that mutex_unlock(), and most other sleeping locks, can still use the lock object after it's unlocked tip-bot2 for Ingo Molnar

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