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From: Marc MERLIN <marc@merlins.org>
To: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
Cc: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@gmail.com>,
	Przemek Kitszel <przemyslaw.kitszel@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net v3] net: ethtool: do runtime PM outside RTNL
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2023 13:39:01 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20231206213901.GA31178@merlins.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e6f227ee701e1ee37e8f568b1310d240a2b8935a.camel@sipsolutions.net>

On Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 05:46:07PM +0100, Johannes Berg wrote:
> On Wed, 2023-12-06 at 08:44 -0800, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> > On Wed,  6 Dec 2023 11:39:32 +0100 Johannes Berg wrote:
> > > As reported by Marc MERLIN, at least one driver (igc) wants or
> > > needs to acquire the RTNL inside suspend/resume ops, which can
> > > be called from here in ethtool if runtime PM is enabled.
> > > 
> > > Allow this by doing runtime PM transitions without the RTNL
> > > held. For the ioctl to have the same operations order, this
> > > required reworking the code to separately check validity and
> > > do the operation. For the netlink code, this now has to do
> > > the runtime_pm_put a bit later.
> > 
> > I was really, really hoping that this would serve as a motivation
> > for Intel to sort out the igb/igc implementation. The flow AFAICT
> > is ndo_open() starts the NIC, the calls pm_sus, which shuts the NIC
> > back down immediately (!?) then it schedules a link check from a work
> > queue, which opens it again (!?). It's a source of never ending bugs.
> 
> Well, I work there, but ... WiFi something else entirely. Marc just got
> lucky I spotted an issue in the logs ;-)
 
and I am truly thankful for the time you took to help out. It made a
huge difference for me in being able to keep a laptop that I will
probably use for the next 4 years and otherwise had to return.
Thank you for going above and beyond.

> I'll let you guys take it from here ...

As this time the first patch I got still works for me even if it's not
the most ideal way to fix this.
As you all figure out what's the best/better patch, please let me know
if you'd like me to validate/retest.

Thanks,
Marc
-- 
"A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in" - A.S.R.
 
Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/  

  reply	other threads:[~2023-12-06 21:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-12-06 10:39 [PATCH net v3] net: ethtool: do runtime PM outside RTNL Johannes Berg
2023-12-06 16:44 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-12-06 16:46   ` Johannes Berg
2023-12-06 21:39     ` Marc MERLIN [this message]
2023-12-07 10:16     ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Przemek Kitszel
2023-12-07 10:16       ` Przemek Kitszel
2023-12-07 17:40       ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Jakub Kicinski
2023-12-07 17:40         ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-12-11  4:52         ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Marc MERLIN
2023-12-11  4:52           ` Marc MERLIN
2023-12-15 13:42           ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Heiner Kallweit
2023-12-15 13:42             ` Heiner Kallweit
2023-12-15 17:46             ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Marc MERLIN
2023-12-15 17:46               ` Marc MERLIN
2023-12-24 16:30               ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Marc MERLIN
2023-12-24 16:30                 ` Marc MERLIN
2023-12-24 23:12                 ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Heiner Kallweit
2023-12-24 23:12                   ` Heiner Kallweit
2023-12-25  8:03                   ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Sasha Neftin
2023-12-25  8:03                     ` Sasha Neftin
2023-12-25 11:21                     ` Marc MERLIN
2023-12-25 11:21                       ` Marc MERLIN
2024-01-03 10:30   ` Stanislaw Gruszka
2024-01-03 11:24     ` Heiner Kallweit
2024-01-03 12:15       ` Stanislaw Gruszka
2024-01-03 23:34     ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-01-04  8:25       ` Stanislaw Gruszka
2024-01-04  9:05         ` Heiner Kallweit
2024-01-04 16:16           ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-01-05 11:53             ` Stanislaw Gruszka
2024-01-05 15:30               ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-01-05 16:29                 ` Stanislaw Gruszka
2024-01-06  3:02                   ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-01-08 11:18                     ` Stanislaw Gruszka
2024-01-05 10:34           ` Stanislaw Gruszka

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